To be sick of the current public slating off teachers!

[Belle15]

Just feel teachers are criticised from all angles at the moment and we work damn hard for very little financial gain or thanks!! Would like to see any of the people moaning about us actuallu spend a day in our shoes.Needed a rant!

[Feenie]

I have zero respect for teachers now, they only have their behavior to blame.

I see. And that would be all of them, then, would it?

[timidviper]

At least the public know who teachers are OP.
Mention the NHS and the public all pipe up about doctors and nurses yet there are loads of professions all working together in healthcare. Nobody ever thinks of pharmacists, physios, radiographers, podiatrists, dieticians, occupational therapists, etc

[BoneyBackJefferson]

"I think this is fair because some teachers never seem to stop working. They're taking before school clubs, lunchtime clubs and after school clubs etc...yet the teachers who just do the basic amount, are moving up the pays scale alongside them."

That is so funny, it really is a shame that its not true.

[noblegiraffe]

I've never thrown a kid under a bus

[Passmethecrisps]

deep you have obviously had a terrible experience but it surely can't be indicative of the whole profession.

Of course it isn't boney. some teachers work endlessly. Others don't. Still, the ones who arrive on the bell and leave on the bell can still be wonderful teachers. That's what makes it hard to financially reward excellence.

[PaulSmenis]

21K for a starting salary is more than a lot of post grads get. My first graphic design job as a junior earned me an impressive 13k. That included working late to hit deadlines and even some weekends.

I think teachers do an excellent job, but everyone else in all other professions have to put in the hours and sweat to earn the same sort of money. This isn't exclusive to teaching.

Granted, farting about on a computer might not be seen as being of ground shaking importance to anyone, but it matters a great deal to clients who want to present their businsses in the best light. So, we are all playing our important role in our own way and people always bitch about money and stress in their work.

Fwiw, I have teachers in my family and as friends and I know how hard they work, but they also get other benefits, pensions, excellent sick pay and a union. I think this is why people object to them moaning. Whilst 21K doesn't seem like much, the national average of 26 is skewed. A new teacher on 12k wil get a pay rise related to their perfomance. This shouldn't be an issue should it?

[ilovesooty]

I have zero respect for teachers now, they only have their behavior to blame. They don't like being proved wrong with their theories and couldn't give a dam aboutstudents, they throw kids under the bus to save their jobs when faced with an official complaint, trying to doctor an ed psych report with factually incorrect info and missing out relevant medical information

Nothing like a sweeping generalisation.

[Passmethecrisps]

Me neither noble. Me neither. Is that a CPD opportunity?

[spotscotch]

at the image of disgruntled teachers chucking kids under buses all over the country!

[BoneyBackJefferson]

noblegiraffe

But it must be true as its a made up stat made up of one persons opinion.

[PaulSmenis]

I meant 21k

[Talkinpeace]

Belle
the Average/mean salary is £26k
but the average/median salary is £18k
so teachers on 21k are on a salary more than 55% of teh population
just remember that

[Feenie]

Would that be one kid per bus per bus teacher? But no, it was kids plural, wasn't it? Two kids each?

[ilovesooty]

A friend of mine has finished university and is thrilled to have landed a job as a substance misuse recovery worker - on 14K.

Re the union - academies don't have to recognise unions so I think protection is being eroded.

[BonaDea]

Most people just go to work and do their jobs. Many work very hard for not very much.

Not sure anyone else expects quite so much in the way of thanks, praise or recognition tho!!

[Feenie]

Aw, I messed that up. Let me do it again - one kid per bus per teacher? Nah, still don't get it.

[spotscotch]

It could be a good behaviour management system:
Warning
Yellow card
Red card
Out of the room
Sent to assistant head
Under the bus!

[Belle15]

But with all due respect that median salary doesn't take into account whether you are trained or educated on a profession. I would expect after 4 years worth of university education and debt that we should expect a
wage to reflect this.
Haha throwing kids under buses is definitely frowned upon in my school

[deepfriedsage]

Yes, so funny ducking up others lives, couldn't care less, proved my point. Just a joke to teachers. It's been interesting for me and the children watch the control freak liars have near breakdowns when they are faced with their wrong doings, not funny then for them. It was ok to attempt to duck up our lives, different story when their life is under the spot light when they were sooooo very wrong and caused harm.

[thebody]

zero respect for ALL teachers, !! don't be so daft.

[Feenie]

To be fair, even the most dedicated teacher could still find 'ducking up others' lives' quite funny, and you really did ask for most of it with the ridiculous chucking kids under buses claim. I would give it up if I was you.

[Belle15]

This thread is getting heated!! :-s

[spotscotch]

must.not.say.anything.about.ducks

[Feenie]

Or maybe start a thread of your own?

[Talkinpeace]

Bus drivers get really sick of being accused of mass murder you know.

I got a real ear bashing from one who pointed out that he had NEVER run over a computer network manager ....