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To tell you that things can (and will) get better

32 replies

dancingwithmyselfandthecat · 24/07/2013 21:06

Posting here because of the traffic, because of all of the support (no seriously) AIBU has given me over the years under different usernames, and because I know that a lot of people here have MH issues.

I have suffered from anxiety, depression, low self esteem all my adult life and for most of my adolescence. (Am 30 now, BTW).

About nine months ago, I realised I couldn't carry on any longer as I was and took things in hand. I had tried ADs and counselling before, to no avail.

Nine months on, I am not a different person. But the person I see in the mirror is much closer to the person others see. Life isn't just worth living, it is precious and joyful. I don't go through every day feeling like I am shit and that something has an iron grip around my diaphragm and that my world is about to collapse around me.

I know that it is very difficult for people who have experienced what I have to believe this is possible, especially if - like me - they have had bad experiences on ADs and with counselling.

What made the difference for me?
Firstly, it was getting CBT. Proper, 22 sessions (on the NHS - thank you!) with a highly trained counsellor. Not three sessions with someone who'd read the same books I had. When I started, I was deeply cynical. I saw it as telling myself one set of lies to replace another. When done properly, it really, really isn't. I have had other forms of counselling and none match up. I am not saying that it is the sole answer, but it helps, massively.

Second, it was wanting to get better. I don't just mean abstractly thinking it would be nice not to have my issues, but making the changes in my life neccessary to do so. Chief amongst these was actually doing the CBT homework - several times a day every day. Checking in with myself several times a day, realising that anxious predictions are usually false, that crossing a bridge or doing that report at work is actually much less awful than you think it is going to be. Crucially - writing that down, so that even on your worst days you can help train yourself out of horrible thought pathways.

Alongside that meant proper taking care of myself. So I stopped drinking for three months. I made sure I had breakfast. I kept to a basic, but proper routine (up at this time, breakfast now, bath now, read now, bed now). I had no idea how helpful this would be until I began it - it is really amazing how cutting out certain decisions eg no I am not going to sit on the sofa all night, because tonight is my night for doing the washing, actually helps.

Lastly, I agreed to try ADs again. I am on a relatively low dose (20 mg) of Citalopram. This helped, not just in lifting me, but in giving me the impetus to do all the things above. I was terrified after previous experiences of trying ADs again. But this time they worked. Make sure you check in regularly with your GP, and know that - as with me - the fact that some didn;t work or had a bad effect doesn't mean they all will.

No one thing on my list is a silver bullet. Getting out of a dark dark place has taken months of hard work. But I am getting there. And it is absolutely worth it. Once you have a few months of "regular" life behind you, it becomes much easier to appreciate that anxiety and depression needn't determine everything.

I know that what I am writing here won't resonate with everybody. But I do know that when you are in that dark, dark place it is difficult to believe you will ever get better. I also know - from personal experience - how closely correlated anxiety and depression and low self esteem are. For years, I thought my issue was depression. I now understand that my real issue is anxiety - and that sometimes slides into depression. Understanding this has enabled me to tackle the more underlying problem and improve my wellbeing long term.

Not sure really what the purpose of this is, other than to send a tiny bit of good news and light to anybody who needs it.

OP posts:
IfNotNowThenWhen · 24/07/2013 21:09

What a lovely post, and a thoughtful one.
I am glad you are starting to see glimpses of light, and also that you have been so proactive about tackling the depression. It's a hard thing to do. You sound very strong.
Keep on keeping on OP!

aldiwhore · 24/07/2013 21:10

YANBU to post this, and as well as 'good news' (I'm happy for you) I should think it may ring bells with others, or give someone hope.

Nice one dancingwithmyselfandthecat it's good you're feeling better.

wilkos · 24/07/2013 21:11

What a really fabulous and uplifting post! Have a huge one of these Thanks and congratulations xxx

KeepTheFaithBaby · 24/07/2013 21:11

It resonates with me. without wanting to sound patronising well done and thank you. Some people may need and read this thread without replying but I am certain it will help more people than you know Thanks

spanky2 · 24/07/2013 21:15

I have depression and anxiety too. I'vehad counselling ,cbt and venalfaxine . I have just confronted my narcissistic mother and enabling father after they have behaved badly to my dcs and me. I am so glad for you, and your experience has reminded me not to get bogged down and congratulate yourself for each victory no matter how small . My ds2 and I haven't always got on but he told me he loved me today .Grin

Reality · 24/07/2013 21:16

I love love love this post.

I was mired for more than ten years in depression, anxiety, shit shit and more shit. Awful. All down to low self esteem and low self worth.

I got out of it with a combination of ADs, lifestyle change, online CBT and affirmations.

I'm annoyingly positive these days, and I know I irritate people by saying, really , just be happier. But for me it was a choice. I had to choose life (I know!) and make steps towards living it. But once I did, it all happened. not straight away and not easily, but that first step was the hardest and it all fell into place after that.

Big huge love to you. You are amazing.

Thanks
MoreThanWords · 24/07/2013 21:17

Just simply, thank you x

qualitytoffee · 24/07/2013 21:19

You rock chick, and you should be so proud xxxx
Wonderful lady xxxx Flowers

Mandy2003 · 24/07/2013 21:21

Thank you for sharing Thanks

A quick question about CBT though: I've always had problems with anxiety and periodically have CBT suggested. But I think my anxiety leads to a lack of concentration and cognitive ability so I just don't think I'd be able to work though the exercises. Is that so, or is there a way round it?

smellsofsick · 24/07/2013 21:22

Nice one OP Thanks

CambridgeBlue · 24/07/2013 21:24

I am fortunate not to have suffered this myself (apart from PND which was luckily sorted quite quickly and easily) but I am close to people who have/are and your story is really inspiring. I am so pleased you are doing well now, thank you for sharing your experiences :)

Pawprint · 24/07/2013 21:27

I'm so glad to read this post.

BigW · 24/07/2013 21:36

Dancing, what a lovely thing to read. Well done to you, it's a long, tough road. You should go back and reread your OP and feel incredibly proud of yourself.

FWIW, I think CBT, when done properly, is enormously helpful.

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dancingwithmyselfandthecat · 24/07/2013 21:38

Spanky, I am so glad to read your post.

Mandy, I found this too. Three things helped for me - first just regular practice and not getting put off by lack of progress. Second, learning that it was ok to be a "good enough" and not a perfect patient - ie I didn't need to come to any great insight, put a lot of time in, etc, I just needed to try to do some every week. Third, I started going to meditation classes. It took me a long time, but that really helped boost my concentration.

Everyone else, thank you. I'm not going to post much, because I want this to be a thread for all of you and not for me, but I will watch and contribute some.

OP posts:
dancingwithmyselfandthecat · 24/07/2013 21:50

Sorry, there was something I left out of my original post.

Exercise. I know that medical reports are conflicted about its value, and it can be difficult or expensive. But Istarted doing a ffive pound weekly yoga class and practicing some of the basic stretches at home, just a few minutes in my routine every night. It helped me focus, and it faced something free and quick every night (when I wasn't at the class) that was for me. Again, not a silver bullet, but one more thing to help chip away at the mountain.

OP posts:
dancingwithmyselfandthecat · 24/07/2013 21:52

Also, if you don't want to post, please PM me. I can't always respond immediately but I will try to as soon as I can.

OP posts:
AngryFeet · 24/07/2013 21:54

I also have anxiety - no depression though. I got much better a few years ago by making life changes and losing weight. Weight has gone back on and i am drinking too much and not sleeping enough. Anxiety has therefore come back. Thanks for reminding me that I can help myself. Well done you :)

AngryFeet · 24/07/2013 21:55

Exercise also made a massive difference to me. Better than any ADs IMO.

Meh84 · 24/07/2013 21:59

I love this post - you've given me hope
x

Apileofballyhoo · 24/07/2013 21:59

I think you are an inspiration dancing. Well done to you and I am definitely going to take your advice on board.

superlambanana · 24/07/2013 22:11

I could have written that post Smile (except you are clearly better organised than me because I didn't!). A year and a half ago I was in a very bad place, where I had been for some time. I'm now a little further down the line than you I think, in terms of time elapsed, and I really do feel like a different person. I feel like me, and now I know what it feels like to be happy. I never, ever thought I could, so if you're thinking the same, just hang in there. Excellent advice from OP Smile

SmallSherryforMedicinal · 24/07/2013 22:28

Thank you so very much for taking the time to post this.

Struggling here, many of the things you mentioned dragging you down are more than snapping at my heels.

Extremely helpful and hopeful post.

Thanks Thanks Thanks

SirBoobAlot · 24/07/2013 22:30

Keeping going OP, and I hope life only continues to improve for you. x

StabInTheDark · 24/07/2013 22:36

Beautiful xxx

OnTheNingNangNong · 24/07/2013 22:37

Thank you for posting this, it is inspirational and it really helps knowing that there is a way out. Flowers