To have confronted this poor excuse for a mother?

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So I'm sat at work, window open. I hear a commotion outside so get up and look out the window. There is a heavily pregnant woman with two small children - a boy of around 3 and a girl of maybe 4.

She is screaming at the boy .. ' you fucking piece of shit, what the fuck are you doing? ' and ' Come on you little prick ' etc etc.

I shout down ' Don't do that! Don't say that! ' in complete shock. ' Who the fuck are you? Fuck off ' she shouts back.

I then deliberated on what to do. I felt really angry so ran down the stairs onto the street but she had gone into the bank. And then I ground to a halt and couldn't work out what to do.

So did nothing more. I mean, what CAN you do? Only a bit of swearing after all eh? I have no idea what I would have done if I'd managed to confront her anyway.

I detest this, really hate it. If you swear at your children like this, in the street, then you are a shit parent.

Aren't you?

Would depend if you looked rough or not.

justgive

Please show an example of a poster condoning this woman's behaviour.

If you can't do that, I suggest you stop arguing. Because you are arguing with yourself.
There's no point responding to something that no one actually wrote.
Respond to the actual posts, that's how it works.

Then whoever wrote what you are responding to will defend their point.
As it stands now you are asking people to respond to something they did not think or write.

Don't be obtuse MrsDeVere. You are a clever woman. You know what an analogy is.

Calling a child a fucking piece of shit and a fucking prick is ea of the highest order. I don't know how people can't accept that

Will MrsDeVere et al please at least accept that this instance of behaviour IS unacceptable and IS abusive behaviour, be it a standalone incident or part of a spectrum of abuse?

Let's forget about context and the wealth of unknown factors for a moment. There is no possible instance where it is acceptable for a grown woman to scream profanities into the face of a small child. That much we all agree on, yes?

Nobody can know whether this was an exception or the rule in this woman's parenting. I agree with what MrsDV is saying I think - that this incident does not necessarily mean this woman is continually like this.
Parenting is just so complex. I hate hearing parents swear at their kids and it's something I never, ever do. I do shout though and I get angry and I smack/have smacked/may smack again. All of which behaviour could have some of you lining up to call me a bad parent - but am I? Really? No I'm not. I do fine and so do my kids.

There is abuse and there is good supportive parenting and in between there are about a million bits in between and I reckon nearly all of us will find ourself in the inbetween zone at some point.

As for the OP's reaction, I'm not going to condemn her. Why would I? She was in complete shock and as she said couldn't work out what to do. I genuinely don't understand how you can critisise her.

Well, that is what I have been saying since the start of the thread. People have just refused to actually read that part.

justgive find me a post where someone said it was acceptable?

I've asked you that 4 times now. And each time you have refused to acknowledge that no one has actually said that.

But don't let the truth get in the way of a good rage though.

I'm not 'in a rage' Tantrums. Stop trying to make me look like an idiot to further your point.

That's exactly it MrsD

No one has yet responded to anything I am saying.
Just keep on repeating that I am condoning this woman's abusive behaviour.

It's quite odd and a very foolish way to try and win an argument.

MrsDeVere. You asked me why I wasn't baying for the OP's blood. A lot of what you say in your post of 19.57.50 implicitly critisises the OP or have I got this wrong?

Nobody's said anything to the contrary smite, that's the thing.

^'She did a shit thing.
It doesn't mean she is a shit parent.
She might be but you can't possibly tell from what you saw.

She shouldn't do it, its horrible but there are hours and hours and hours of her life that you don't see.

Where she could be a loving parent.

Well done for telling her to stop but most people would react in the same way tbh. People don't like being told off in front of their kids and in public. They are likely to react in an aggressive way.'^

Now I'm very tired this evening but unless my eyes deceive me that's a pretty clear condemnation of this behaviour balanced with an informed and nuanced understanding of how people 'tick'.

From MrsDV right at the start of the thread so perhaps we could pack in the minimising bullshit now?

MrsD did actually say that right at the start her very first post makes a point of saying its unacceptable.

But anyways I can not be arsed to get into a bit a chest puffing about swearing in the street from rough looking women not after the day I've had I just wanted to say...

If you hear or see something that gives you reason to believe a child is being physically abused at the time don't piss arse around with ss you phone 999 and report it as a crime in progress after that you then phone ss. A social worker cannot act in many circumstances without a police officer they are not crime fighters the police are that's there job.

Has the OP really claimed to know 'facts about this family that she does not and can not know?' Really?

This was obviously an awful thing for the Mother to have done, obviously. Swearing and speaking to her children, to anyone actually like that is horrendous.
But, it was just a snapshot.
Mrsdv, as Northern has pointed out has nowhere said that the behaviour was acceptable, nowhere.

Personally I would have liked to think I would do the same as the Op. But it doesn't mean that that Mother is the same with her kids day in, day out.

On and Tanntrums, it agreeing that OP did a good thing on intervening in the ea of a young child and maybe making this woman think twice about her behaviour in future makes me an 'idiot' I'm happy to be given this label. I abhor abusive behaviour whether it's a mother and child, a man and a woman, prolonged or only lasting long enough to call a small kid a fucking prick.