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Best name suggestion I've seen for the newborn drain on the taxpayer...

737 replies

SolidGoldBrass · 23/07/2013 23:16

I popped into a pub this afternoon for a wee and a pint and they had a Royal Baby Name sweepstake board behind the bar.

Someone had suggested 'Dodi.' Grin

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YouTheCat · 24/07/2013 13:26

Why is that pointless? Rather pointless not to wear them though.

Ledkr · 24/07/2013 13:30

Dies anyone seriously believe that the baby or his parents will be scrolling though mumsnet today and get all offended by this thread? Seriously come on, get a grip.
Pop along to one if the many fawning royal threads on here and leave people to have their own opinions.

LimitedEditionLady · 24/07/2013 13:31

I m glad some people have still got sense and dont just conform to be onside with the idiots.

larrygrylls · 24/07/2013 13:31

You,

Just curious as to how you know the survivability of those two people in that particular accident if they were wearing seatbelts? It rather presupposes that you have analysed the accident in detail, both from an engineering and anatomical perspective. You must both have amazingly detailed information about the crash and be qualified medically and in engineering...

LimitedEditionLady · 24/07/2013 13:32

Erm i dont care if they dont read it its still offensive.stop making out people are stupid.

fedupofnamechanging · 24/07/2013 13:32

larry, if people work hard and leave the fruits of their labour to their dc, then that's fine, imo. What is not fine is for one family to own vast amounts of the country and to profit from it, for generations on end, when they have done nothing to deserve it.

I would like to see a little more sharing of the wealth in this country - no family should be on the bones of it's arse in a country where such vast wealth exists, so yes, I think that maybe there ought to be limits on how much one family can 'own'.

mynameisslimshady · 24/07/2013 13:33

I notice you are avoiding my question about what you meant by your comment. I guess my assumption that you were just being a bit nasty and pointless was correct.

WineNot · 24/07/2013 13:33

France has more tourists than the UK for many reasons.

Ski-ing, decent weather, and WW1/WW2 battlefields being three straight off the top of my head.

Part of the attraction of the UK is the history and heritage, pomp and ceremony. Part of that is the Monarchy.

LimitedEditionLady · 24/07/2013 13:33

Everyone,its ok to say horrid things as long as the person its about doesnt hear it....hmmm playground shit.

gordyslovesheep · 24/07/2013 13:34

University of...
Guess I'll have to go to ...

Or

Thistle Dd3
Dave Dd1
Swansea...Dd2

larrygrylls · 24/07/2013 13:35

Karma,

And, I assume that, like most people, a reasonable limit would be a little more than you have, so your life would not be affected but others would have to give away more. And, if in five years, you are five times richer, you would still have the same perspective but just have somehow justified raising those limits to just above your own wealth.

Tis always this way with pinkies...

LimitedEditionLady · 24/07/2013 13:37

If everyone just shared the same opinion be a biring thread wouldnt it.

Ledkr · 24/07/2013 13:43

Where was anyone called stupid?

fedupofnamechanging · 24/07/2013 13:44

Larry, a reasonable limit would be significantly more than I have. I am honestly not jealous of people who have more money than me - I fully appreciate that many of those people have skills I don't possess and have done things that i would never be able to do. Or they might just be very lucky - I am fortunate in many ways and truly do not resent good fortune in others.

But there has to be a limit on how much wealth and privilege people can enjoy purely because of birth. I don't think the state should be endorsing the idea that it is the right of a select few to receive so much, while so many in this country have so little.

flippinada · 24/07/2013 13:45

Is it just me, or is anyone else wondering if they've accidentally stumbled on the Daily Mail comments section instead of MN?

It surely can't come a massive shock to even the most obsequious, genuflecting-to-our social-betters type that some people aren't interested in or don't like the royal family?

Burmobasher · 24/07/2013 13:46

I am bored shitless with royal baby bashing threads. Moan Moan fucking moan.

CorrStagnitto · 24/07/2013 13:53

funniest OP ive seen in a long time Grin

flippinada · 24/07/2013 13:53

This is the first one I've seen - loads of excited about the new baby threads though, and nothing wrong with that either.

YouTheCat · 24/07/2013 14:02

Limited called us 'idiots', Ledkr. Hmm

As to the seat belts, really no need to be sarcastic but I did watch a programme a good few years ago and the medical opinion was that they would both have survived the accident (with injuries admittedly) if they had been wearing seat belts.

AgeOfExtremes · 24/07/2013 14:02

Glad to see MNHQ are not deleting this thread.

This baby is just a baby but through no fault of his own is also now filling a role, and that role is seen by lots of people as a drain on public resources that's not worth the cost. Not the baby himself but the role.

Within hours of being born that role led to 41 gun salutes and all sorts. It also led to the very best medical care, which means that his mother will never ever have to worry about whether or not she should bother a busy midwife on the postnatal ward with a question about her baby, or whether she can get a GP appointment the same day to get him looked at when he's ill, or anything like that. She will have all of that on tap (even more than 'ordinary' ultra-rich people do - it's not just due to them having money).

The full power of the state is going to be made available for the forseeable future to make sure that baby stays happy and safe and well, with the best of everything. Lovely for him, but purely due to an accident of birth. For the rest of us, it's cuts in public services and the implication that if you need more help, or are poor, then you are a scrounger and probably deserve to suffer. Again, this isn't even due to them just having money, so you could make a case that they're just spending their well earned cash how they choose - it's due to an accident of birth and a bizarrre idea of 'royal blood'.

I'd wish any newborn baby well and I'm always happy to hear of a new baby including this one. That's the baby not the role though. I feel much more ambivalent about the role and I'm not at all sure they royals are worth the money, or as nobly above interfering in politics as is claimed.

Criticism of this baby's role, by people who disagree with the monarchy, is the rough that goes with the smooth. And as was said above, referring to him as a "newborn drain on the taxpaper" is hardly up there with regicide! Calling it 'vile' is just odd.

CorrStagnitto · 24/07/2013 14:10
YouTheCat · 24/07/2013 14:14

Adds to the applause.

SunshineBossaNova · 24/07/2013 14:23

More applause here.

Mimishimi · 24/07/2013 14:24

Isn't the Queen one of the wealthiest women in the world, not because of what she receives from taxpayers, but from the income or interest on income sourced from massive landholdings and investments around the world?

I do think it's a bit off to basically call a newborn, any newborn, a waste of space.

CunningAtBothEnds · 24/07/2013 14:29

SGB strikes again... Vile

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