to think that regardless of "rights", it's fucking obnoxious to choose a seat next to a pram and then light up

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Sitting outside cafe with DS sleeping in pushchair. Couple come and sit in the next table (not any of the other further away tables which are equally convenient), and start smoking, puffing smoke over sleeping baby (until I moved him).

They've now fucked off, w/o having bought anything (thus confirming my opinion of them as complete dicks), but having leisurely finished their cigarettes.

Was I BU to give them a dirty look? And to be pretty fucked off at how fucking inconsiderate smokers behave as if all outside spaces belong to them? (Yes, there are considerate smokers who would never dream of doing this. Thank you.)

I mean who the fuck lights up next to a baby?

YANBU. That is all.

What they actually blew their smoke over your baby?

YANBU. At DD's 2yo party, one of the fathers of the other children lit up right in the middle of all the toddler (OK it was in the garden but still awful habit and right next to the kids).

^^wss!

Did they notice the pram? Lots of people are unaware of babies.

It winds me up. I feel the same about people that cycle on the pavement. It's my kids they knock over, shooting round corners.

Agree that not all outside space is automatically smoking space, that is one of the worst outcomes of the smoking ban. Nonsmokers like outdoors too, and its not true that the smoke just blows away outdoors.

YANBU

YANBU.

I've had an absolute cunt of a woman lean right over my pram to look at newborn DD with a cigarette in her mouth. I almost punched her in the head.

YANBU

My daughter once got a fag burn on her arm from someone walking along with fag dangling at pram height

YANBU. Even if they didnt notice your baby its still rude to go and sit where people are eating and smoke.

Yadnbu!

I am a smoker. I sit as far away as possible from a family with young children/babies if seating allows (assuming the parents aren't themselves smoking anyway).

usualsuspect, beast - they weren't obviously deliberately blowing it in his direction (if they had been I would have spoken to them), but they weren't making any effort not to blow in his direction (not that it actually helps much when smokers do that magical thinking "oh if I hold my fag under the table it won't bother people", but at least they're trying!) so lots of smoke drifting right over him - they were inches away.

It's possible they were entirely oblivious but even if so, I'd still think they were dicks for not looking for a table not on top of someone else.

Hate that it's such gorgeous weather but selfish fuckers make it impossible to enjoy it peacefully.

yanbu, i smoke but would never go and sit on a table next to someone and smoke (unless they were smoking too) even if they didn't have any children with them.

I usually pretend to have asthma when people smoke near me.

YANBU How old were the couple though? The reason I ask is because my old Dad does this sort of thing, its a generation thing I think, Im always having to remind him that its not like the old days, you cant que up for a bouncy castle with the grandkids and smoke FFS. He is getting the message now though I think.

They looked in their twenties, Donnadoon, so don't have your Dad's excuse.

YANBU

The smoking ban has been great for indoor spaces, but I hate finding myself on the receiving end of other peoples smoke outside. How do they have a right to smoke any more than I have a right to not have smoke blowing over me?

I had this on the beach last week. Was sitting breastfeeding DD when someone lit up just in front of me. I had to move across to the other side of our 'pitch' but couldn't escape completely without moving elsewhere (which having set up all our stuff would be too much faff). To be fair, they had been there before us, but how were we to know they were likely to light up?

I think many smokers genuinely do not realise how antisocial their habit is, and how horrid it is for non smokers to be subjected to it

Nope they dont then, just inconsiderate then, because when he is pulled up on it he is geniunely apologetic and what not. Perhaps they didnt notice the baby, but still...Yuk

I really think we should go the way of some US states and ban smoking in public with designated areas for smokers only.

I had to move out a bus shelter when it was pouring with rain as someone came and sat next to me and DS in the buggy puffing away.

A couple also once politely asked if they could share our picnic table in a pub garden (this was without DS) and then sat down and got their fags out, I said they couldn't actually share the table if they smoked and they got all arsey with me saying that was the 'whole point' of sitting outside.

Arrghh I bleeding hate smokers and I used to be one so I am the WORST anti-smoker there is

well us smokers cant smoke inside so i would sit outside and smoke, you could sit inside we cant, im sure two people smoking near your baby wont do it any harm, were they blowing the smoke on the baby? seems like a strange thing to do

I used to smoke, there is no way I would light up near a baby or child.
I could not enjoy my fag if a baby was next to me sharing it.

I agree Guff, ban it.

So when its hot, we all have to swelter inside so you can enjoy your fags?

YANBU....someone dragging a drip came an sat right next to me in the hospital garden while I was feeding DS....she couldn't of missed his hospital bracelet, selfish mare

saying that was the 'whole point' of sitting outside.

Funny, I thought the whole point of sitting outside was to get some fresh air.

If anyone smokes too near us DH will come out with something about antisocial drug addicts. His voice carries well!

I'm also a bit peed off with people who light up barbecues on beaches and other beauty spots without any consideration of wind direction. Its not as bad as cigarette smoge but there's more of it.

Going outside to get some fresh air is going outside for a fag, isn't it? I haven't had any fresh air for 12 months

there is no fresh air in London, im sure my fag is not doing much harm to all the the pfb sitting next to me, and to honest i wont sit next to baby and light up but if the parents sit next to me and im smoking already i will carry on they can leave..

Yanbu op. smokers need a smokers area not the whole of the outside area!