To think this calls for a celebration!? - Same-sex marriage to become law by next week!

[ANormalOne]

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I'm actually crying I'm so happy right now!

This calls for a large class of to celebrate!

If Goliath wants to have those views then who are we to say that they shouldn't be held. Whether you agree with them or not is irrelevant, and saying she's wrong for having them, when she (presuming the poster is female) belives in them is almost bullying.

My heart just bleeds for her, the poor bullied darling.

She can have whatever views she likes - no-one has said she can't be homophobic but she's not going to get a round of applause and a pat on the back for being one - her views make her nothing more than an ignorant bigot but she's entitled to have them and we're entitled to criticize her for it, it's called free-speech, deal with it.

If I paraded around telling people that black people are inferior to white people and I should be able to keep one as a slave, do I get a free pass because it's my opinion?

my reasons for gay marriage is that I belive that everyone in a relationships should have the same rights.

I don't discriminate a person in any way. Race, religion, sexuality or gender.

Why 'it wrong'?

Perhaps you could explain your views without having to use such unpleasant phrases as 'turn my stomach'?

Obviously some people have yet to evolve.

I love how both Golliath and oreo are happy to come along and say "it's wrong" but can't be bothered to explain why they hold this belief.

Of course Golliath mentioned it's "not natural". Anything more insightful, guys?

you turn my stomach oreo. See, its not nice is it?

I don't agree with same sex marriage. I too am allowed an opinion, I personally find that homosexuals and lesbians turn my stomach. I am not calling anyone names or being a bigot, just my opinion. It wrong.

Disagreeing with you or pointing out that you're a BIGOT which you are, is not stopping you from having an opinion, pointing out that it's your opinion doesn't magically stop you from being a BIGOT. You can have your BIGOTED opinion if you want and we can point out that you are a BIGOT.

HTH.

Thanks Dahlen. I had tried to look up what the govt plans to do about consummation and annulment but couldn't find anything. I hadn't realised that consummation was only added as an amendment in 1973. I suppose it was added as a result of mass hysteria and unnecessary fear of the homosexuals which was frequently the case in the 70's.
I still think there is a need for annulment in modern times though to provide some 'security' for those forced into marriages against their will as I don't see why they should have to go through a divorce due to the beliefs and actions of their relatives.
I wonder if the govt have even considered the consummation law and the implications that introducing same sex marriage has.
I also wonder what will happen if the govt haven't considered consummation law and same sex marriage and what will happen if a same sex couple want an annulment because in the eyes of the current law the marriage can never be consummated and therefore legally binding. Where does all this actually leave marriage and particularly same sex marriage.
I just think the whole thing has been rushed through without proper consideration

Christ alive - this thread is still going?

Got to love how on a thread celebrating equal rights for ALL people, there are always some that have to post just to be contrary.

Btw oreo simply because something 'turns your stomach' doesn't mean that we should legislate against it.

It really is this simple - If you don't like same sex marriages, then don't have one

What ANormalOne said. Bang on.

Weirdly, oreocookiesz posted at 1.06am that this was 'great news'.

I just saw that Skyler a failed attempt at trolling?

Probably. Or else there's an imposter. Or there was drink involved.

Annulment makes sense to me, but not on the grounds of whether consummation has occurred or not, rather on the grounds of lack of consent. Otherwise we are treading on some very dodgy ground where sex = ownership as it were. If someone is in a position to force marriage on another then I would suspect that they are equally likely to rape them after the ceremony. The idea that that is the bar to annulment makes me uncomfortable. Especially bearing in mind that rape in marriage only became illegal in 1991 (and through case law).

Otherwise I'm really happy to see this bill becoming law, although sad at the exemptions (and really really think the CoE/CoW should be disestablished). I now live in Canada where marriage has been open to gay couples for a good ten years with no issues arising. It's nice for my gay colleagues and friends to be able to get married if they so choose and to be able to refer to their husbands/wives as such. It does I think make a difference.

www.solicitorsjournal.com/blog/case-point-consummation-legal-oddity

I've had a dig around and found a good and (I think) reliable article on the issue of consummation and annulment in same sex marriages. It seems that the act of consummation is omitted from the marriage act relating to same sex marriages. Interestingly, the act of adultery is also omitted for divorce on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour, which surely creates a sense that same sex marriage is not deemed equal to hetrosexual marriage and certainly that same sex sexual activity is viewed different and perhaps somewhat less important than sexual activity in hetrosexual marriages.
I have posted a link because it explains it much more clearly than i ever could, but it also indicates that consummation has been around way before 1973 and this date is only when the law was challenged and clarified.
I'm still not convinced that same sex marriage is going to be equal in many senses and is just a rushed through ill thought out change that is going to cause much legal challenge when same sex couples decide to divorce. I just wish the govt would take their times and do things properly instead of rushing them through for whatever benefit to their popularity.

This bill is bloody brilliant! About fuckin time!
I can't wait to see fabulous weddings in wedding magazines and 'Don't Tell The Bride/Groom'.
Imagine the boost to the economy this will bring, too!

I would be more likley to agree with poster who are against gay marriage had a bit more to say rather than it turns my stomach.

If for example they said its because they are religious and quoted this

You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)

If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)

Mcnewpants - somebody should have reminded the huge number of catholic priests of that before they decided to commit the abomination of child sexual offences.
I do however understand that there are many many people who have religious beliefs and uphold those religious beliefs in an acceptable way and their feelings should be recognised. Those people who are against same sex marriage based on religious grounds (or any other grounds for that matter) should not be labelled as homophobic bigots just for having a different set of beliefs. Same sex relationships are a contentious issue for many and we won't change attitudes towards this overnight.

McNewPamtp2013, do you also believe that the only clothes you can wear should be of the same fabric? If you don't, you should be stoned to death. Do you think a woman should marry her rapist? The bible says so. Get off your high horse.

McNewPants2013.

Futterby, McNew supports same-sex marriage, I think she was showing that most Christians don't show the full quote, which they don't. If they're going to use the bible to discriminate against homosexuals, why ignore the 'put to death' bit.

Like in Uganda

Right, sorry McNewPants.