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About the Benefits program on BBC1

364 replies

bimbabirba · 11/07/2013 22:27

It has made my blood boil! Especially that judgmental bitch, Debbie, who was telling the single parent that she shouldn't buy a whole chicken on tax payers' money to feed her children! Then she went all judgy and bitchy because the kids eat two cooked meals a day and she asked if that was really necessary!
I think the world has gone mad!

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wasabipeanut · 12/07/2013 15:56

Wallison YY to your point. How we got to the point where the state are topping up shitty wages beats me.

I watched this prog hoping that it would challenge stereotypes and give comfortable people some insight into just how hard it is to be poor. All it did was reinforce the same stereotypes. Shame.

JakeBullet · 12/07/2013 15:58

I will have a go at anyone who is not intelligent enough to understand editing.

Dayoldcheesecake has no idea if the woman was able to make soup or not, she JUDGED based upon what she saw without taking into account that these programmes have an agenda.

And I have no idea how many children the woman in question had, I deliberately didn't watch the programme because these things are nearly always the same....let's paint everyone on benefits as a lazy feckless idiot".

Yes some may be "lazy feckless etc" but most are not.

curryeater · 12/07/2013 16:04

The whole premise for making this programme was unbearable and utterly morally bankrupt.
How the programme makers can justify it is utterly bizarre. Really disgraceful. Like running a bum-fight.

IneedAyoniNickname · 12/07/2013 16:05

Didn't the mum on benefits (who may or may not make soup from chicken carcass) have 2 children? that's hardly Popping out babies as and when!

JakeBullet · 12/07/2013 16:08

TWO children.....bloody hell and someone has accused her of "popping out babies". Bloody hell there are some judgemental idiots here.

Gosh, makes me look at myself, how irresponsible to have an autistic child. And I expect the taxpayer to support me. The cheek of it, how absolutely feckless I am.

noddyholder · 12/07/2013 16:09

It was yet more fodder to turn people against each other.

JakeBullet · 12/07/2013 16:12

Agree noddy, shame some posters are too thick to work that out isn't it?

IneedAyoniNickname · 12/07/2013 16:15

I think it was 2 children Jake I have a brain like a sieve

marriedinwhiteagain · 12/07/2013 16:20

She was a nice mum, in a clean home and living a sensible life - she does perhaps need to find a job though. That's the issue that annoys me - people can't ease themselves off benefits.

LuisSuarezTeeth · 12/07/2013 16:21

roshbegosh

Don't have a go at dayoldcheesecake she is right. That woman on the programme has never worked and pops babies out as and when, without a care, because she doesn't have to take responsibility for supporting them.

Did the programme say she had never worked?

Didn't seem clear how long she had been out if work or a single parent.

JuliaScurr · 12/07/2013 16:28

Wallison & Turtle - the voices of calm reason

bimbabirba · 12/07/2013 16:48

marriedinwhite I've been out if work for 3 months, yes months not years, and I am struggling to find something. Employers seem to only want people who are currently employed in similar roles and with experience in that particular field. It's not easy to go back to work when you've been out of the workplace especially if you have to limit the hours you're available or the distance that you're prepared to travel which is often necessary if you're a single parent (for childcare issues for example).
I found the comments of that Debbie woman shocking and fucking stupid too. Surely a whole chicken is way cheaper than FILLETS?

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LuisSuarezTeeth · 12/07/2013 16:52

Course it is bimba. Debbie clearly has never actually compared them.

JakeBullet · 12/07/2013 16:58

Definitely cheaper. ..I do this a lot. Chicken is expensive now so if we have one I make sure that I get three meals out of it

So roast dinner one day, risotto or chicken curry the next and a soup on day 3. All easy to cook and day 2 and 3 meals have the added bonus of being able to use up veg etc.

Its a much cheaper way to buy and use chicken.

bimbabirba · 12/07/2013 17:04

Who is Debbie anyway? What makes her be in a position to judge?

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Roshbegosh · 12/07/2013 17:11

Is this really all about the price of chicken?

LuisSuarezTeeth · 12/07/2013 17:22

No Roshbegosh it also seems to be about misinformation, sweeping generalisations and er, benefits.

Darkesteyes · 12/07/2013 17:34

RoshbegoshFri 12-Jul-13 15:34:12

Don't have a go at dayoldcheesecake she is right. That woman on the programme has never worked and pops babies out as and when, without a care, because she doesn't have to take responsibility for supporting them.
And as for the slob with the 2.1 in meeja studies ffs do something useful, train for something vocational, gobshite.

MYSOGYNY KLAXON

Darkesteyes · 12/07/2013 17:39

And i would STILL like to know if any of Debbies employees have to claim tax credits.

Curryeater i totally agree. They have basically turned a sad economic situation into a reality/game show. Its sick.

IneedAyoniNickname · 12/07/2013 18:00

luis I think they said she had only ever worked part time since leaving school at 15.

But even saying she left at 15 is a clever 'spin' on her life IMO. My experience is that people assume you dropped out of school early if you say you left at 15, when in actual fact summer born babies take their gcses at 15.

LuisSuarezTeeth · 12/07/2013 18:16

Oh i missed that bit INeed.

FasterStronger · 12/07/2013 19:40

if Liam took a shop job he would have a much better chance of getting a graduate job. who is going to give a graduate job to someone who has not worked since graduating?

the voluntary work would look good on his CV along a side paid work but he would have to answer in an interview why he did not get any job.

  1. either he tried to get any job and failed - which does not look good in a competitive graduate jobs market
  2. or he did not try. again - why hire anyone who has a view about what jobs they are prepared to do and which they wont do.

he needs to show he is flexible and prepared to compromise for longer term gain. he was misled into thinking a degree would seal his future but now instead of recognising that he is waiting for a job that wont come.

the couple looking after one of their parents I like and thought just needed short term support to get them through unemployment.

Luther and the woman with the pets did not really seem to want to works.

HeyIJustMetYou · 12/07/2013 19:45

Divide and rule kids. The elite sneering down and making the slaves they created the enemies in the eyes of the middle class.

Disgraceful.

Alisvolatpropiis · 12/07/2013 19:50

Yanbu.

That entire programme was full of people who have no idea what life is like for some people.

Nick and Margaret can fuck off with their attitude towards the unemployed. As if either of them were ever likely to be unemployed given they were both born with silver spoons rammed up their arses. Or if they weren't they've disappeared up their own arses.

Latara · 12/07/2013 19:50

HeyIJustMetYou you are right!