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ILs make me too scared to have a baby!

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Mintmochafrappuchino · 11/07/2013 15:52

I'm sorry for a really long post but I need help!

I know that having a baby will change my life and I know that if I don't have one I will always regret it but the broodiness has yet to kick in.My DH and I are facing the prospect of trying to get pregnant before we feel ready due to a ticking fertility time bomb. Consultants are saying we risk running out of time if we don't do it asap and I'm really really trying to get into the right (i.e. broody) frame of mind.

I've always had a strong fear of pregnancy and so was sent to a psychiatrist. She was fab and helped convince me that I could get through it and that many long-held fears weren't even relevant given that I have to have a CS and can't breastfeed. Anyhoo...

The Psych identified that the real elephant in the room was my ILs. We used to have a great relationship but, as soon as my DH and I were engaged they started to control both the wedding and the rest of our life (even down to where we put certain furniture in our house!!). The build up to my wedding was horrific and I only enjoyed maybe a month of being engaged. I cried and cried the night before, I loved my DH but was crippled at the idea of becoming part of that family (love my BILs and SIL) and taking their name. On the day (despite family being briefed not to mention starting a family due to fertility probs) my MIL conversation on how I will give them GC asap was very audible during the wedding breakfast. Honestly the run up to the wedding could be a whole post on its own).

After getting married it took us about 5 months (and that psych appt) until we felt able to start trying. But what happens then, well the ILs of course. A lengthy rant about how they are concerned I am mentally ill (no exaggeration) as I don't text or email them, how I'm lovely and talkative in person but don't speak on the phone and how its unacceptable they don't have the relationship they have with my SIL. My DH was instructed to 'sort me out... quickly' as it was 'just not acceptable' to them. How i'm 'not normal' and my DH 'must fix it rapidly' or allow them to 'get me help'. Oh and did I mention, bemusement as to why I wouldn't write an one hundred word ESSAY on my activities at work! At no point did they consider that perhaps the reason I don't make small talk was that they had upset me (and DH) over the last year, no the automatic assumption was of course that i'm mentally ill!!

Considering a major reason I couldn't get into the baby-zone before was that I was dreading the control of my ILs, how can I get into the zone now!! If they are willing to dictate the way I behave and demand that my DH forces me to conform with their wishes, imagine how it will be when there is a baby! I can just about cope with it now (after lots of vomiting through stress) but can't bear to talk to them or be around them at the mo. My DH tries bless him but will only go so far to defend us to avoid causing a rift with them. Unfortunately only going so far isn't enough as giving any wiggle room means they'll bully him into submission. They are very upper-middle class and very traditional and have complete belief in their ways of doing EVERYTHING. The idea of giving them a reason to be more in my life, to try and influence how I bring up a child, criticise my inability to breastfeed etc etc is just horrifying. If they are so brazen in their attempts to control now imagine what i'll be like when I'm tired and vulnerable following a birth! The idea of them coming to the hospital is horrific and feels as bad as my old fear of childbirth did. What can I do?? My fear of pregnancy is still enough that this problem is enough to stop me from allowing myself to fall pregnant. I've tried to get DH to understand, he says he does but that he can only go so far so he can avoid upsetting MIL and won't have a baby until its sorted with ILs.

Help!!

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TalkativeJim · 11/07/2013 15:56

Wow.

I think, quite simply, that if they are as bad as you say - and I do not doubt you - then your only realistic option if you want a happy life with children in it is to let your DH know that keeping in contact with them and having a baby isn't going to happen.

Yes. Seriously.

Unless he is totally on your side (and he isn't), it won't work.

Is there any way you think he would be able to cut contact?

TalkativeJim · 11/07/2013 15:57

By the way, you are totally right to see this as such a huge issue. It is. People like this will ruin your life and that of your family. Don't get pregnant unless you KNOW that you will be in a position to keep them well away.

peopletalk · 11/07/2013 16:00

as for them coming to the hosiptal dont tell them when you go into labour, maybe you should write them a letter explaining your fear of pregnancy and how any undue stress could set you back in your quest to have a baby. so if they want grandchildren they better back off!!

diddl · 11/07/2013 16:03

Bloody hell!

Your husband needs help!

Do you live with them?

If not-why are they so enmeshed in your lives?

holidaysarenice · 11/07/2013 16:04

too be honest I think you need to take a responsibility for yourself. To say I want this baby and it will be like this. You are engaging way tooo much in their games.

Also are they the real reason that you are scared or are they in part an excuse?

misspoirot · 11/07/2013 16:12

You need to find the courage to stand up to your pil. They sound awful!

Mintmochafrappuchino · 11/07/2013 16:15

Wow such quick responses, it feels so good to hear that somebody somewhere doesn't think i'm being OTT!

diddl No we live a couple of hours away but that doesn't seem to matter. It's not that we tell them about our life anymore, they just do what they feel they want to do, or feel is the 'proper' thing to do regardless of what we think Confused

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emuloc · 11/07/2013 16:18

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Mintmochafrappuchino · 11/07/2013 16:19

holidaysarenice you're right to an extent. I fully admit that I was pretty terrified anyway of getting pregnant anyway, but had talked myself around. When you're trying to convince yourself to do something you're not sure about, this sort of crazy thing on top of an already difficult situation really isn't helping. Even if I had been broody I think this would have changed my mind!

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Lulabellarama · 11/07/2013 16:20

They sound awful. But more pertinent to this, you don't sound like you actually want a baby, never mind the fear of pregnancy. You do know that motherhood isn't obligatory?

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 11/07/2013 16:24

If they live so far away how do they have such a lot of say? You really need to talk to your DH about your family life having boundaries I think. You need his support and you're not getting that at the moment. Their behaviour is secondary to that I think.

JoinTheDots · 11/07/2013 16:24

How would you feel about starting a new life in a country on the other side of the world?

It seems to me you need to try to distance yourself from these people, or get your DH to tell them in no uncertain terms that their behaviour is making you distance yourself from them, not your mental stability!

Can he not tell them to keep out of things? The furniture thing stood out to me - if my ILs told me where to put my sofa I would laugh at them, but if they were serious, I would expect my DH to tell them that while their opinion is interesting, it is not important and it would be appreciated if they could keep it to themselves.

If and when you have a baby with your husband, the ILs will want to be involved, there is no getting away from that - so you need to get away from them.

diddl · 11/07/2013 16:25

The problem though is allowing them control.

How does that happen?

How did they control your wedding & where you put furniture??

You both need to stop engaging when they overstep.

If you are at theirs, for example, just leave.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 11/07/2013 16:27

I would also say not to have a baby if you're not sure you want one. It's harder than you can ever imagine even if you want them desperately.

specialsubject · 11/07/2013 16:32

not good and you should cut off contact. But I also feel that you are not ready for a baby. You don't really want one yet, you don't seem comfortable enough in your own skin to tell the inlaws where to go and you are frightened of childbirth.

adoption does involve a lot of hoop jumping - but it solves the fertility time bomb issue. I suggest you hold off until you are mentally ready.

ThreeEyedRaven · 11/07/2013 16:42

They can only control as much as you and DH let them.

They live a couple of hours away, yet it sounds like they are a major interference in your life.

This can only happen if you let it.

EatingAllTheCrumpets · 11/07/2013 16:47

Crikey, what strikes me as an issue is the fact you clearly are being force into having a child. This for me is the bigger problem.

There is nothing wrong with being child free, there is nothing wrong with waiting a while. Older mums are more and more common these days. There is always adoption, which, given your fear of child birth, sounds like a good fit.

Please please please don't feel you have to have a child right now, or ever if you don't want to. But you are not ready now, that's obvious.

You desperately need to lay some ground rules down for your PILS and your DH. Having a child is bloody hard work (so I gather) and you do not want added stress from them, not your DH pandering to their every whim. Your DH needs to know you will not except him caving in to them, and he needs to support you fully.

You must take control of your own life and stand up to them, if you don't do it now you will never be able to live your life how you want, and if you do have children you will be forced to parent how they want and that will take its toll on you, your relationship with DH and your relationship with DC.

But please don't try for a baby that, right now, you do not want.

mumofweeboys · 11/07/2013 17:04

Do u even want a baby? Im presuming u have a medical condition that means u need a section and cant bf - would this be a problem post birth.

At the end of the day you il's can talk but u dont have to listen, just smile and nod - u dont even live near them so its not like u have to see them face to face, just let dh deal with them.

FruminousBandersnatch · 11/07/2013 17:11

They have serious boundary problems and the only way you can address this is taking a giant step back and distancing yourself whenever they become overbearing. They will soon learn that the more they needle and nag, the less you will have to do with them.

Your DH should be your greatest ally here, and should have some stock phrases up his sleeve for when they call. "This has nothing to do with you. I'm going to have to hang up if you talk about this again." Ignore any daft emails.

Because they WILL step it up when you have a baby. And you need to address this now - as you know.

welshfirsttimemummy · 11/07/2013 17:17

You need to stand up to them before you have a baby as after will be so much harder. This is your life and don't let anyone try and run it for you. And definitely don't let anyone tell you how to raise your children. Just nod and smile and then just carry on doing what you want to do Smile

And only gave children if it's what you really want, not everyone wants to be a parent and that's ok.

Mintmochafrappuchino · 11/07/2013 17:32

Thank you for all the responses they really are helpful.

Yes the fear of childbirth etc has been a long term thing, but as I said I guess luckily I now can't give birth naturally or breast feed so perhaps I'm still carrying fear over things I needn't be thinking about anymore.

It's really the timing that's the issue as its being forced on me us by doctors. Im sure id have grown out of my fears eventually, it's just that now other people are dictating the pace! I'm younger than I expected to be when considering a family, ive just got my dream job and am only in the first year of marriage! I have no friends with children and so haven't really been around babies to kick start the broodiness I've heard so much about. In fact I have never been around a baby!

I guess i expected to want them in the future and am scared that we'll lose the option. If I fell pregnant by accident (and my ILs weren't around) I'm convinced I'd embrace it so doesn't that means I want one deep deep down?

We had only just decided to try so to have all this IL drama is so confusing and distracting :-(

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tinkerbellvspredator · 11/07/2013 17:42

I have read quite a few threads on the relationships board where PIL have been so controlling/toxic that the marriage has broken down. Yes it is possible to keep them at arms length or cut contact but only if your DH wants to. He obviously does not.

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 11/07/2013 17:46

Your dh needs to stand up to them, properly. If he won't, and you have a baby, they will make your life a misery.

Your dh is the problem here, not your ils.

CheeseFondueRocks · 11/07/2013 17:54

I know this sounds simplistic but if they are so unhealthy fro you, why not cut off all contact?

EllieQ · 11/07/2013 18:49

As previous posters have said, why were your PILs able to control the wedding (did they pay for it?), and why are they able to control what's happening in your life? Can you give examples? If they live two hours away, do they make comments when they visit that your DH obeys?

The comments about your mental health and the suggestion that you write an essay about your work (seriously, WTF?) are really strange. How did your DH respond? Did they ask your SIL (presumably DH's brother's wife?) to do the same? Do they control your BIL & SIL's life in the same way?

Sorry, that's a lot of questions! But it sounds as though your DH is part of the problem by refusing to stand up for you, and you are quite right to think that this would be a problem if you had children. How did he respond when the PIL were identified as a problem at that psych appointment?

I was on MN for about a year before DH and I starting TTC, and I read a lot of threads about difficult inlaw situations. I ended up going through a list of things with DH to make sure we agreed on stuff like not telling anyone we were TTC, not announcing a pregnancy before 12 weeks, not telling anyone the sex or the names we were thinking of, not telling anyone I was in labour until the baby was born, no visits until we were settled at home and no-one would stay with us when they visited (PIL live 200 miles away). My PIL are nice, but can be a bit overbearing and want to be more involved in our lives that either of us like, so this made me feel more in control of a situation where you have very little control (still TTC one year on).

I would suggest you and DH need some relationship counselling before you start TTC, as I think he needs to understand that his parents behaviour is really not normal and he needs to deal with them (and stand up for you) appropriately.