to think not having a toilet brush is weird?

[KatyTheCleaningLady]

I'm cleaning a house with no bog brushes. There are always streaks in the toilets.

And several clients have those disposable head brush handles in stands next to the loo, but no heads for them. They just gather dust and get in my way and still nothing to scrub the bowl with!

I carry a designated washing up brush for these sorts of houses, and it requires much rinsing and bleaching before I wrap it backup up in its plastic bag. It's all very disgusting.

What's up with that??

I am very snobby about bleach.

It is incredibly toxic and foul and it stinks.

I severely judge anyone who uses bleach all the time to clean their toilet.

They are selfish, ignorant, scum-bags.

Aggie and Kim (remember them?) recommended wearing rubber gloves and cleaning the loo with a cloth.

Fuck Aggie and Kim.

Sorry back to the poo shelf... So after the poo has fallen in, surely the poo shelf will have poo all over it as the poo has originally landed on a basically dry surface? And this is just left for the next person to enjoy? I can't quite see how this has caught on to be honest... Still very

Kim and Aggie would wear the same gloves to clean the loo as they did to clean the kitchen. Mingers

Poo shelf is a bit of a mystery. I always assumed it was for health reasons, i.e., you would examine it. But no-one has ever explained it to me.

The way the poo shelf orks is that German flushes are more.powerful than ours.

Poo shelf explained: www.spiegel.de/international/hold-your-nose-toilet-shelf-on-trial-a-406547.html

And some suggest laying toilet paper on the shelf before a number two to avoid the problem of Bremsspuren.

Floppity - I read the whole thing and am still completely confused as to why people would think this is a good idea. It sounds utterly disgusting. I'll stick to my water filled, poo tray free toilet thanks!! Urgh.

Minty why would you put the pooh from a disposable nappy in the toilet? And why would you not remove your shoes, I don't want the street walked all round my carpets?
Agree with four year old in pushchairs though unless there is a medical reason.

why would you put the pooh from a disposable nappy in the toilet?.

Why would you NOT??

Not milk-only poos of course, but certainly toddler poos that are pretty solid. It's either tip the poo down the loo and dispose of the slightly soiled nappy in your bin or let a lump of poo plus soiled nappy sit around in your bin and then be disposed of. I know which I'd rather.

You can get toilet brushes which have self contained pots now, with lids, from Tesco for about £2 if I remember rightly. No germs floating about. Replaced frequently they are relatively hygienic. No worse than the toilet itself, which ironically people don't seem to mind leaving the lid up on! (Which drives me crazy in my house!)

I always tip poo from a nappy into the toilet, why wouldn't you? Stops the smell, whatever you do wire the nappy afterwards - wash it as in cloth or bin it.

With obviously, not wire.

I'm happy to deal with toddler poo in a reusable nappy, but draw the line at then manually attempting to wipe the stinking pasty gunk off the toilet bowl with toilet paper when I could use a brush stored in its own pot container that gets used with bleach. It's not like I'm going to scrub the pots with it.

I'm never going to win an award for show home of the year, but at least a bottle of bleach and a loo brush means that my toilets don't look like hoarders from hell. Even with decent maintainence, the water quality gives the limescale a delightful orange appearence that needs scrubbing at intervals.

Think people need to look at their eating habits of poo is sticking that much!

Heffalump the Flump - The reason for the poo shelf is so that you can inspect your poo to check if it is a healthy one, thus checking if you are in good health. You are right about it smelling twice as bad since the poo is not in the water. When I am in Germany, I always flush very quickly, before I've even pulled my pants up! The poo is not actually landing on a dry surface, as the shelf is slightly dipped and so each flush results in a small puddle of water being left on it. It can certainly get skid marks on it though which are probably not worse than those on other toilets but look worse because they are so much more in your face! But there's one definite advantage to poo-shelf toilets - if other people are in earshot, you never have to worry about making a loud splash!

I have posted before on this issue and been firmly in the "absolutely no way - they're gross and the work of the devil" camp. I couldn't see why a quick clean around the bow with toilet roll was so awful, if there were marks.

until

last weekend stayed with some friends. I was very grateful for the brush to save my embarrassment. There were marks under the water, all along the bottom of the bowl. I'd have had to actually put my hand into the water to clean it and then withdraw my hand covered in shitty water. I've never experience that before. IME it is above the water on the ceramic.
However, still didn't like the journey, said toilet brush made, over the carpet back to it's home, even though I had rinsed in an extra "flush" - 3 flushes in total compared to one and a wipe around if necessary. The brush was necessary though for this particular toilet.

So

I have concluded, It depends on your toilet and its shape. For some it is a necessary evil.

I'm still going to make my guests clean up after themselves with a wad of toilet roll though. It's clean, quick and much more hygenic. If I ever move house I will pay particular attention to the toilets and will have to do some market research

My loo brush doesn't have poo on it because I put it in the dishwasher each time I use it. (JOKE!!)

Lime scale central here. The brush is to scrub away limescale as much as poo. Seriously a squirt of bleach or toilet cleaner liquid is not going to shift lime scale. It needs scrubbing.
Totally stunned at the toothbrush thing. How I have survived ths long in the world I do not know. Genuinely never crossed my mind that germs are leaping out if the loo and onto toothbrushes.

Corky and violet - thank you for your explanation. So the poo shelf is pretty redundant because everyone is so embarrassed by the extra smell that they don't stop and examine their poos? Somehow I don't think the person in the stall next to you will need the splash to let them know what you are doing as the stink may just give you away!!

I fear Germany and the other countries that use this did not think it through! Thanks for explaining though!

Baffled by anti bog brush brigade. I use mine every other day to clean loo wash it in flush and use bleach. Cannot see how one could clean a loo without one. We house swapped at Easter and deal is u clean up at end of holiday but they had no loo brushes so what to do stick your hand down gross.

I find really cheap own brand or value type coke cola is pretty good for limescale bogs. Dump a litre or so in the bowl, leave a while then flush.

I had to remove my loo brush for a while The puppy became obsessed with it. You'd be sat watching TV, enjoying the peace of ignorance, then you'd catch him in the corner of your eye- a little fluffy ball, head and tail held high, proud as punch, trotting down the hall with a loo brush that was bigger than he was.

I'm all for loo brushes, but I don't want them doing a tour of the house.

equally I was once at a friends house pre-children when her 1 year old crawled into the living room chewing one .... think it out me off them for life (it still has bits of poo and toilet roll hanging off it)

I'm sticking with bleach. No way am I having a loo brush.

The environmental impact of chlorine bleach on water systems is considered negligible AFAIAW. It biodegrades into salt and water. I feel no guilt whatsoever about bleaching our loos.