To want bad bad things to happen to this man?

[Thepursuitofhappiness]

Aargh I'm so stressed. Had a car crash today with my DH driving and 3.5 month DS (who is amazing).

Bloody idiot stupid other driver caused the crash on purpose. On a 60 mph road my husband was driving along at a perfectly reasonable speed (I think about 50 but due to the bends in road top speed you can go safely). Being tailed a foot or two away by stupid man. My husband slowed down to about 40 to try and get him off out tail as have precious baby in back (no brake applied just gradual slowing).

So idiot overtook us, swerved back in right in front of us and slammed on the brakes. My DH had not a chance of not hitting him. Scariest few seconds of my life, so scared for DS. Our car is a write off. I don't think he meant to cause accident just road rage. But no doubt he will claim whiplash as he's that sort of despicable person.

I hope it hit home what he had done when watching baby being taken away in ambulance. He is fine thank god. Worst that happened is bloody nose (mine). Idiots response 'Well were you not wearing a seatbelt?' If I haven't had been I'd have been dead not just bloody nose the idiot.

Police said completely believed us and gave him massive lecture, but can't do anything as no witnesses. It will go on our insurance as we went into him.

I love baby car seats and think they are brill. Do people think baby on board stickers work? If so ill be getting one tomorrow.

However, I hate him. AIBU to want all manner of terrible things to happen to him? What is an appropriate karma reaction? I hope his cock falls off, his wife to leave him, ans at least 2 limbs to require amputation. Should I add anything to my karma wish list??

Jesus, what a twat! That sounds so scary, hope you're ok and obviously hope his cock rots off.

Well actually my hope is that he's done it before and is already under investigation from the insurance companies.
That would be a nice surprise for him.

How scary. I'm sure you know but you need a new baby seat. I'm well impressed with your restraint actually, had this been me I'd have killed the wanker at the roadside.

Hope you all recover really soon.

Sadly this has become quite common as a means of insurance fraud. It's beyond me why anyone would think causing an accident is a good way to make money.

I hope you are all ok op.

What a nightmare! Unfortunately these types of people (out & out cocks) never feel guilty. The way I try & get it over is to think (hopefully) they have an unhappy life as they are so cockish no-one ever truly likes them.

Sorry about your car & the insurance but keep focussing on the fact you are all okay. Is there any way the Police report would sway the insurance? I would ask your insurance company to stand their ground with his & take it to court. My DH had an accident in my car & unfortunately wasn't insured (long story but always check your policy when changing insurers!). The accident was 50/50 according to Police. Other driver kept trying to claim off me (I wasn't there although it was my car). I stood my ground, said I wouldn't pay & eventually it was dropped (DH ended up with 9 points on his license - ouch).

Hope you've all slept well. Take care OP.

Look along road for cameras - there may have been "witnesses" afterall - even if they show him behind you moments before incident.

what an idiot....
I've heard of people doing it to others. How do they go to bed at night?

I had a white van do this to me, glad you are all ok.

Police were good, did all they could , criminal record check on him. Oo yes I hope he gets insomnia too. But really I know I should try and forget it and not dwell on it and not embrace the anger but its difficult!

I dont see the point in road rage (if this is what it was). He has just caused a crash, thankfully not serious & inconvienced you & ur family, himself, the police & the ambulance staff. All for what.

Btw baby on board sticks are useless & they can annoy some people.

He was an idiot, but why would your oh slow down even more, supposedly to get him off his tail?
particularly without applying breaks, which can often give a false sense of security?
Being too slow can be as annoying as tailgating and dangerous too.

If you are really upset about tailgating and worry about a baby, then just pullover and let the idiot pass you safely.

If the police believe you I really would fight this with the insurance company to get him to pay up - did he admit it to them?

Lweji, there was no passing place to pull in. My husband let him overtake. As I said my husband was going a reasonable speed for the road conditions (wet). In fact the road would have become a 40mph zone in a couple of hundred metres.

What do you suggest you do if someone is completely dangerously on your tail?

The guy claimed 'something ran out in front of him'. Obviously not true.

At the very least you could get 50/50 & it might deter him from driving in such a reckless manner in the future.

I have to admit if I am feeling uncomfortable because of a tailgater I gently slow down to encourage them to pass. If it is safe to pass, of course.

I understand that you must be furious about this, but if you hold on to your anger towards this man, it will only end up affecting you & your family. I wouldn't want to let him have that power over you; why should he?

The best thing you can do is to write the other driver off in the same way he wrote your car off, and move on and live happy lives.

You cannot control what happens to the other driver, but you can control your own reaction to this incident and how much you let it hang over you all from now onwards.

We will push for 50/50 of course, think its always considered the rear drivers fault though?

We were supposed be on holiday today, will be delayed until insurance sorts hire car now. But in the grand scheme of things it's hardly important...

I slow down for tailgaters. If car behind won't maintain a safe distance for the speed, all I can do is maintain a safe speed for the distance and allow donor-in-waiting to pass.

Not if the driver in front has pulled in & not left enough room - definitely push for 50/50 even if it is more hassle as the bloke on question needs lose out to prevent him doing something similar.

You can push for 50/50 - even if you were behind the other driver cut in rather than allowing you room so it was him who prevented a safe stopping distance. The highway code (although I know it is not itself law) specifically says "Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in."

what part of your car and what part of his car took the impact?
If it is the corners rather than central on the back that would indicate that he had cut in I would have thought.
It the police can tell what happened from the damage , then the insurance companies who are much more skilled and experienced at this sort of thing will certainly be able to.

Push for 50/50 at the very least. I used to work in this area of law. Yes, most rear-end accidents are deemed to be the fault of the person colliding with the car in front, but every now and again your scenario would come up and we'd get at least 50% liability from the other driver. Stick to your guns.

God! What a total wanker! Definitely push for at least 50/50. Get the police to make a report if possible. I have no idea how you or your DH didn't deck him. If he'd deliberately crashed into me with dcs onboard, he wouldn't be standing right now and I'd be in custody!

3rd party hit from the rear will always go to the front vehicle.
Either indicate left and after 4 or 5 winks pull over and slow to a halt by the nearside.
or indicate right , pull over to crown of the road , then park facing the 'oncoming trffic , if there is any at all' so the car / van simply undertakes you .
lifes too short to get upset , everyones gotta be somewhere , let them get on with it .
look at getting a dash cam that constantly records , very cheap now and would have saved you thousands of £££ and might have got twunty man prosecuted