To want bad bad things to happen to this man?

[Thepursuitofhappiness]

Aargh I'm so stressed. Had a car crash today with my DH driving and 3.5 month DS (who is amazing).

Bloody idiot stupid other driver caused the crash on purpose. On a 60 mph road my husband was driving along at a perfectly reasonable speed (I think about 50 but due to the bends in road top speed you can go safely). Being tailed a foot or two away by stupid man. My husband slowed down to about 40 to try and get him off out tail as have precious baby in back (no brake applied just gradual slowing).

So idiot overtook us, swerved back in right in front of us and slammed on the brakes. My DH had not a chance of not hitting him. Scariest few seconds of my life, so scared for DS. Our car is a write off. I don't think he meant to cause accident just road rage. But no doubt he will claim whiplash as he's that sort of despicable person.

I hope it hit home what he had done when watching baby being taken away in ambulance. He is fine thank god. Worst that happened is bloody nose (mine). Idiots response 'Well were you not wearing a seatbelt?' If I haven't had been I'd have been dead not just bloody nose the idiot.

Police said completely believed us and gave him massive lecture, but can't do anything as no witnesses. It will go on our insurance as we went into him.

I love baby car seats and think they are brill. Do people think baby on board stickers work? If so ill be getting one tomorrow.

However, I hate him. AIBU to want all manner of terrible things to happen to him? What is an appropriate karma reaction? I hope his cock falls off, his wife to leave him, ans at least 2 limbs to require amputation. Should I add anything to my karma wish list??

Good advice Tweed.

DH spoke to insurance company, other guys story is he had to do emergency stop as (imaginary) rabbit ran out. Apparently this is not a valid reason to brake for insurance purposes so hopefully should at least get 50/50...

I think it will safely go 50/50. Anything smaller than a dog you should carry on (not sure which breed though?!?).
Also, he over took without ensuring it was safe to do so. He's admitted he's slammed the brakes on, so that's that one ticked.
Do look for CCTV then the bastard might get dangerous driving.

I'm so sorry you've had to go through this ive had it tried on me, people like to think they are invincible in their metal boxes, in reality they are a loaded gun.

Oh and don't forget to claim for a new car seat on your insurance
Xx

God that's awful. I'm amazed at your restraint though - I don't think I could have stopped myself from attacking him if I thought my baby might be hurt.

May he get piles that never heal.

Someone earlier asked why you would slow down if someone's tailgating you. I would do exactly the same. Tailgating and the associated arseholiness of the driver means the risk of crashing is hugely increased. Crashing at a lower speed causes less damage than crashing at high speed.
OP, I hope your family are all OK after your horrible experience. I will join in the illwishing of the ignorant piece of shit that was driving the other car.

I was taught on a defensive driving course that if you are being tailgated, you need to double your following distance to the car in front. This means if you get rear-ended, you won't have the weight of two cars (the car behind and yours) barrelling into the car in front. So I can understand why you might slow down for a tailgater - to maintain the safe distance in front because they are not doing so.

I was always told to slow down with tailgaters. And increase the distance between you and the car in front.

This is horrible OP. Not the same at all as I was on my own with no baby in the car, but back in February I had a very similar incident with a tailgater overtaking and then slamming his brakes on so I went into the back of him. It came out of my insurance because I went into the back of him despite the fact it was 100% his fault. YANBU. Go and have a nice lay down and a cup of something hot and sweet.

yanbu , im surprised your dh didnt knock him out , mine would of been locked up by now , what a stupid twat , glad you and baby are ok , just pray for karma .

How awful.

I think its stupid that its always considered the rear drivers fault. My dad was on the motorway in his truck (fully loaded articulated lorry) and some idiot woman STOPPED dead in the middle lane (to change lanes).

He was a reasonable distance behind her - he hit her though, no one on earth could have stopped a vehicle that size in that situation. Its ridiculous that she wasn't technically at fault.

You should not deliberately slow down OTHER THAN to increase your distance from the car in front, so that in case of collision, the damage will be limited to your car and not cause a shunt effect.

Don't put on your hazards
don't flash your brake lights
don't in any way try to piss off the tailgater

Pull over/turn left into the first safe place (with other people, preferably with cameras eg a petrol station)

I got badly tailgated by someone very aggressive once with my baby in the back of the car. I passed several turnings where I knew there weren't many people, or cameras...and took the first one I could find, into a petrol station. It was on the right, so while I was indicating in the middle of the road, he undertook me on the pavement, still flashing - and then I continued to drive, instead of turning, because I was afraid he would come back and attack me.

So I was driving somewhere behind him - he noticeably slowed down at the next roundabout, but as I was behind him he didn't know which way I'd be going, so I managedto lose him and double back on myself.

The petrol station had witnesses, they were lovely and I could have taken him to court but I was afraid of reprisal attacks so I let it drop. The police will have a record of it though. So if he does it again he'll be in trouble.

I agree your DH did nothing wrong, and probably all he could feasibly do in the circumstances.

I was going to say I didn't think stopping for something in road was acceptable.

Push 50:50 and/or push for police to bring charges of dangerou driving or without due care and attention or whatever they call it nowadays.

I love these curses!!!

One of my colleagues once had a similar incident and, because he was going faster (the tail-gater was really intimidating), my colleague actually rolled the car over trying to avoid him.
So your DH did the right thing in slowing.
And may I join everyone in wishing that all these delightful infestations plague your own donor-in-waiting? (What an apt description )

Can't believe some people are quite so idiotic. We are just waiting around for car insurance to sort out hire car (we were due to drive to south coast today on baby's first holiday sod's law) But chocolate and magnum ice cream have slightly helped the situation.

Thanks for advise re claiming for car seat, didn't think if that, apparently we can spend up to £250 so we'll go top of the range I reckon... Would you say the isofix base needs replacing too though?

YANBU. Some people shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Apparently there are people who do these things on purpose! Can't remember what I was watching it on now. They purposely cause the accident.

Beggars belief.

Glad you and your family are ok aside from the shock

He certainly won't be a brain donor though from the sounds of him...
(i.e. brainless twat)

Yes please get the base replaced too.

Horrible OP, glad you're all ok. I live in fear of this happening to me, I drive a blue VW polo and get tailgated all the time (always by BMW drivers, why is that?) I think your DH did exactly the right thing by slowing down.

I even got tailgated driving down my street the other day. Rage, rage.

Dizzy Zebra - in that case your Dad would have been 100% at fault for not leaving enough of a stopping distance between his vehicle & hers. I agree it was dozy driving though!