To think that a teacher should not tell the children to go and have a wee in the churchyard?

[ThoughtsPlease]

After lunch the children were rehearsing a play in the church a two minute walk from the school. They did the whole play once, and DD who is 7 waited until they finished to say that she needed the loo. The teacher asked the other children, about 15 in total, if any also needed the loo, about 7 children said they did, and the teacher told them all to go outside in to the churchyard and find a bush to have a wee behind!

DD is not familiar with outdoor weeing, and the result was that she managed to wee on her pants, socks and most importantly to me as they are now in the bin all in her school shoes!

AIBU to think that a member of staff should have taken the children back to school to go to the loo, there were two members of staff in the church.

Agree 100% with bonkersFDT20-whether religious or not, churchyards are where some people go to remember loved ones. I don't think the fact that the children were behind bushes makes any difference-they were still in the churchyard. I fully accept that alfresco urinating happens but do not believe that a teacher should tell pupils to do it.

I can answer the pyramid one. I was in Queen Hatshepsut's tomb and a woman leaned against the wall. The tour guide shouted at her that if everyone did that they'd wear it out. I can't imagine what he would have done if she'd have pulled her drawers down and pissed.

YANBU OP. They should have worked in a loo break. And it is is extremely off to piddle in a place of remembrance and worship.

Dawndonna Oh, sorry. Your point wasn't clear to me.

Anyway, I would suspect the teacher has absolutely no intention of doing this again. She was the one who had to spend the rest of the day with a group of children who definitely hadn't washed their hands after the loo, and I suspect she shared in some of the consequences.

Ew no gross. Most reception children say they want a wee when asked. Most arnt desperate.

They could have waited.

The teacher was out of order, however there are a couple of things to consider here

1. were the adult to child ratio's covered if 1 member of staff left to take the children back to school - probably not

2. why were there only 2 members of staff with such a large group outside the school premesis

xylem

yes, some of us on here are teachers and TAs

No toileting facilities in the church? I'm guessing the vicar pisses in the churchyeard too then

Ah now I see it

City dwellers - 'ew toilets always close enough never wee outside'
Country folk - ' yeah, having a wee outside is perfectly normal'

Actually we live in the country.

Yeah, I guessed that, but that's why the teacher thought it was OK.

imademarion that was my thought, too. No-one, no matter what age, should be weeing in a graveyard. So, on that basis, OP - YANBU.

No I think they just thought going back to school was too much hassle.

I live in the country too...

So do I and my Dc have never been told to just pee behind a bush!

And there are a lot of bushes round here and not many toilets!

I am surprised by how many people think YABU! I totally agree with you, they should have been taken to the toilet! But I have been told I have some issues with public toilets/ weeing outside. I always have a potty with me fir my preschool DCs. I would be shocked if they told me their teacher had allowed them to wee outside when there was a toilet nearby and I have boys! Op Yanbu!

id have suggested the bush too.

Thoughtsplease you need to teach your daughter to wee outside.

I think the churchyard bit is worse than teachers asking their pupils to wee outside.

The shoes bit is ridiculous.

The world is covered in human wee - it's no big deal. Far better to break briefly, wee, get back on with the rehearsal than to stop, walk 7 children back up the road (willing to bet it would take 7 children longer than 2 minutes), faff about while they all went to the loo and washed hands, then traipsed back to the church.

As for binning a perfectly good pair of shoes

I have explained that she had worn the shoes since September and I would not describe that as 'perfectly good', they would have been replaced in September anyway.

I did not want to fiddle about with cleaning and drying etc, they were very wet and already smelt bad.

Without an adult to help you I would imagine most young children would end up weeing on themselves, I have no idea whether the other children managed it without getting wet, I expect that they all didn't either.

And really you don't use the proper toilet facilities because it takes a bit of time and effort?

They spent 2 hours rehearsing a school play, I am sure that a break to actually use the toilet even for 15 minutes could have been fitted in.

Yep, that's right - a bush is a perfectly adequate toilet facility for a child who needs a wee in my view.