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to call for a Boycott of the Evening Standard until they sack Saatchi

57 replies

newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 07:14

Apart from publishing Saatchi's statements, the only editorial in the matter has been this

here

He has admitted assaulting his wife in public and the police have cautioned him.

Minimising, self-serving codswallop.

I know it's technically free now but I hope some advertisers withdraw their business.

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Bearleigh · 19/06/2013 13:49

I've signed. Thanks for arranging this.

carovioletfizz · 19/06/2013 13:51

Thanks all who've signed it! Have tweeted it and shared it as much as I can.

If anyone wants to start pressurising the main ET advertisers by twitter and FB, I'm in! I might have time later to do something on this, will update you if I do. I'm not near London so can't get my hands on a copy but if anyone wants to post the main advertisers here apart from Nat West who we know about, I will set the ball rolling!

LeGavrOrf · 19/06/2013 13:53

Bloody hell at Sarah Sands.

Quangle · 19/06/2013 13:53

agree Nutcracker. The Friday mag used to be good and then a few years ago it became a sort of Jennifer's Diary ragbag of photos of rich people at charity events and polo matches. Plus profiles of young Russian girls married to rich men.

I do like Sam Leith though. And Rosamund Urwin.

MaggieMaggieMaggieMcGill · 19/06/2013 13:57

Signed.

Southeastdweller · 19/06/2013 14:20

I'll have a look tonight and see what advertisers are in there and post back.

It would be nice if someone with a big following (and I mean thousands) on Twitter could post this thread but I doubt they would.

Agree the paper has gone downhill. Too many twentysomething writers moaning about their rents and going on about how everyone in London is doing this/going there/eating that...yawn. Sands' laughably transparent defence of Saatchi is the icing on the cake, as it were.

newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 17:00

So glad I started this, this morning. Especially as they have printed another self promoting piece today.

See this great Sunny Hundal piece here

For those interested, this is my blog post on why it actually is our business.

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newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 17:02

caro thank you so much for doing the petition Wink

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MsJupiterJones · 19/06/2013 20:30

Oh this editorial made me so fucking angry. Thank you for the petition link.

Southeastdweller · 19/06/2013 20:38

Advertisers today are:

M&S
Harvey Nichols
TFL
Ford
Eileen Fisher
Lidl
John Lewis
P&O
Lloyds TSB
First Direct
Sky
Habitat
Three
Talk talk
Evans Cycles
Sony
Late rooms
Lacoste
RBS
HSBC
Tesco
Birkbeck
Boots
Halifax
O2
Foxtons
Ford

I notice that Louise Mensch and John Prescott have deservedly criticised Sands on Twitter for her views.

LineRunner · 19/06/2013 20:58

Thanks for that info southeast.

carovioletfizz · 19/06/2013 21:23

Thanks so much to all who have signed!
Am going to try a few advertisers on Twitter now.
I am twitter.com/carovioletfizz if anyone wants to retweet me.

ProjectGainsborough · 19/06/2013 21:27

Yeah, thanks Sarah Sands, it is no business of ours what goes on behind closed doors. But can I confess a wee bit of curiosity about what kind of jolly marital high jinks cause a man to jam his fingers up his weeping wife's nose?
Signing.

newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 21:30

I've just followed you. I'm @louloudillon

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morticia74 · 19/06/2013 21:30

Before demanding the removal of this obvious arsehole of a man, we should at least consider the feelings of his wife.
It is entirely possible that she is happy deluding herself that this behaviour is part of a passionate relationship (note the word deluded).
She might not think that she is a victim of domestic abuse (in my job I see a lot and it inevitably comes as a surprise to a lot of women when you tell them that they are).
Or maybe the photos really don't show the whole story.
Either way, this exposure is not helping his wife and their problems should be sorted out in private, between themselves, without comment from the national press.

Quangle · 19/06/2013 21:32

Also have some sympathy with the idea we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. I mean, of course, she could be being violent too, behind closed doors. I doubt it but she could be. So factually SS is right - we don't know what goes on in a marriage.

What we absolutely do know is that in public CS chose to physically assault his wife.

So no, we don't know if she is an abuser. We do know that he is.

ProjectGainsborough · 19/06/2013 21:38

I guess if you think this is the first instance of possible abuse, yes. And god knows, if it was me, I would desperately want privacy, so I see where you're coming from morticia

But she has allegedly left him, so perhaps the appalling fact of these pictures has in some horrid way, been of use.

newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 21:45

I've tweeted the petition to louise mensch, John Prescott, Fleetstreet Fox and a few others earlier in the day.

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morticia74 · 19/06/2013 21:48

"allegedly" left him...or she could just be embarrassed that a private squabble has become public debate and wanting to hide away. The truth is, we don't know and nor should we know - unless, at some point, she decides she wants to use her alleged experience to inform the public debate about DV.

It's easy for people who have never experienced it to make judgements about women who live with this every day - but the truth is generally more complicated. And I say this as someone who knows too much about DV.

newpencilcase · 19/06/2013 21:49

Morticia, I do see your point.

However, he has received a police caution and committed this in public. Therefore the press is inevitably involved. Given that, a responsible press has to speak in terms of supporting victims of DA, not minimising or victim blaming.

Nigella can actually think what she likes, it is none of our business. As members of the public, we are allowed to express an opinion to all people in that situation that it is not 'normal' or within the realms of a 'loving relationship'

Time and time again you see women come on Mumsnet boards suffering from horrific abuse but are scared they are overreacting.

One of Mumsnet's finest qualities is there deafening NO YOU'RE NOT that they hear.

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Slobberedupon · 19/06/2013 21:53

Signed! Thanks for setting this up carovioletfizz

ProjectGainsborough · 19/06/2013 21:55

Without wishing to get into a competitive DV situation, I grew up in a violent household and the abuse often seemed to be a kind of steady 'non-hitting' humiliation.

And sticking your fingers up your wife's nose IS humiliating. Not sure what the benign interpretation of that could be.

morticia74 · 19/06/2013 21:59

DV is never acceptable and never something to be trivialized. That's really the point I was trying to make, albeit clumsy. The debate should be about the issue, not the celebrities, especially when we don't know for certain that it is happening in their marriage (even if we strongly suspect).

sleepingdragon · 19/06/2013 22:01

Signed

carovioletfizz · 19/06/2013 22:07

Thanks everyone!

The point here is not to hurt or humiliate Nigella further but for the ES to send out a clear message that they will not provide a platform for the opinions of someone who thinks it is OK to publicly assault his wife. DV is accepted and forgiven far too quickly in our culture - look at Chris Brown, Gazza, George Best - this needs to change.

Men who hit women should be treated like the absolute disgraces that they are, not paid to write columns in newspapers.