teacher fired for being a domestic violence victim. A lot of the parents agree with the decision. How do you feel about this?

[vivizone]

To sack her though? she is NOT responsible for another person's action.

But I don't know if the parents are being unreasonable or not worrying about the safety of their children. It would definitely be in the back of my mind but I wouldn't want her sacked at all.

It's just sad all round.

[Pimpf]

Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe that the parents and other teachers haven't stood by her.

If he is that much of a danger, he should be imprisoned for longer, of he isn't no problem.

How can she be punished for his actions

[Eyesunderarock]

foxnewsinsider.com/2013/06/14/carie-charlesworth-california-teacher-fired-catholic-school-being-victim-domestic

www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/14/1216324/-California-Teacher-Fired-For-Being-Domestic-Abuse-Victim

I agree with BeQuick. It only wouldn't happen here if the law didn't protect the victim, but I'd bet my considerable arse that a private or independent school here would do exactly the same, and parents would be lining up with placards if they didn't.
The womam had 4 children of her own in that school, and now has no job, or any chance of one in her diocese. Wonder if the family is still welcome in church?
The police, the law and the church should be supporting this victim fully.

[ilovexmastime]

Un-fucking-believable! As Pimpf says above, if he's that dangerous then lock him up. But no, sack his victim instead, that's the obvious answer .

[Eyesunderarock]

What's next, removing children from the school because they come from an abusive family and have a parent who might threaten others?

[Eyesunderarock]

What a useful and powerful weapon to hand an abuser.

[Soupa]

Appalling

[thebody]

I am amazed!

The Catholic Church are usually so supportive and kind to women and children.

[Eyesunderarock]

Well, he is her ex, theBody, so she's presumably pissed on the teachings of Paul already.

[roundtable]

Thank god some reasonable voices appeared. I thought I was on my own there. I really hope that they get the support they need, especially with him being released from prison.

[pigletmania]

Absolutely shocking and disgusting. The police and te district should be managing te situation with the ex. Why is he near the school in the first place, he should be in prison! the poor lady needs support and understanding, not blame an to made to feel that she has done something wrong!

[gorionine]

FWIW, I do not think she was fired for being a victim of domestic violence ass uch, also the end result is she has and it is very shocking. I think she was fired because , as the video says, the husband once managed to worm his way into the school's car park. Now this story happens in America where sadly in recent years there have been many many instances of violence in schools. I imagine the way the parents and the school are viewing this is that, if one day he makes it all the way to a classroom, what will happen to their children, what will they possibly witness. I think that fear is not unfounded.

In their decision, they (diocese) are indeed showing that they are blaming her for putting children at risk rather than offering her the support she so clearly needs. Maybe I missed a bit but why is the school not straight going to the police saying that this man has been threatening a member off staff on school premises? (car park incident). I imagine that in this day in age,such allegation would be taken seriously enough for him to be under close surveillance and her to be able to leve her life and work without fear.

[FreudiansSlipper]

Horrible totally unfair but this is not just about domestic violence this highlights the problem with guns in America and the fear of them yet the victims of dv are now victims of other peoples fear

A school on lock down

[AintNobodyHereButUsKittens]

This reminds me of a recent thread where OP discovered that her CM's ex partner had a serious history of ongoing DV. The thread was pretty much unanimous that she would be reasonable to remove her DC, but of course that's a very different situation from a school employer.

[neunundneunzigluftballons]

What would happen if she was not married to him and instead he was a random stalker who happened to choose her as his victim? Should she be sacked then too or maybe just maybe should something be done to effectively stop the criminal not the victim. Personally I think that the school should keep paying her while she is on a continued leave of absence or else protect themselves from this man hiring adequate security while he is a threat. They absolutely have a duty of care to the students but they als have a duty of care to the member of staff.

[OwlinaTree]

thebody I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

[5madthings]

This is disgraceful and i am amazed anybody thinks this is ok, if it realy is not safe for this woman and her children then they need to make sure they are safe, if not at that school then somewhere else.

Essentially they have just washed their hands of the 'problem'.

What support and protection are this woman and her children actually getting.


And what others say about this meaning other victims of domestic abuse wont come forward.

[DeepRedBetty]

The person/group who really stand out here as being bastards are the Diocese - assuming they have ultimate control of the school. How difficult would it have been for them to help resettle this lady and her children in a different part of the US? It would have been the compassionate Christian thing to do, this lady is at risk all the time her and the family's whereabouts are known to the ex-husband.

Instead they've ended up with yet another load of bad press for the Catholic church. When will they ever learn?

[lljkk]

El Cajon is not a nice suburb. What a hoot that anyone said that. It's pretty ordinary, some areas grotty even.

Employment rights in the USA are generally very weak compared to UK. We don't have concept of unfair dismissal, automatic rights to redundancy pay, etc. There is nothing that unusual about how she was fired, just the reasons why.

[hackmum]

Mrs DeVere: "If they cannot arrest him because he has yet to commit a crime, how can they sack her when he has yet to commit a crime?"

Yes. This is exactly it. In this country, you sack someone because they're crap at their job - you can't sack them just because their presence is, through, no fault of their own, an inconvenience to you. No idea how it works in the US, obviously, but this is a crazy situation.

[FairPhyllis]

I suspect that the fact it is a parochial school is playing into this - it may be easier for them to fire her than a state school.

But pretty appalling. How will she get another job with this hanging over her? Morally, the school ought to help her relocate to another diocese where her husband can't find her.

[OddBoots]

It's the same country where being a lesbian* can have you kicked out of college then to rub salt in the wound the same college can insist you pay thousands to get the transcripts to study elsewhere.

link

*or be sexually immoral according to their standards.

"the student handbook states that "Any student involved in sexually immoral behavior, including premarital sex, adultery, and homosexual acts, is at minimum placed on University probation and may be subject to a Judiciary Hearing.""

[lljkk]

Even in a state school I reckon she'd be easy to sack.
More here, if anyone can be asked to read thru it carefully.

[lljkk]

More about employment law in CA.