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To have the rage about the stupid baby Corrie storyline!

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VulvaVoom · 12/06/2013 19:59

This is trivial (couldn't bear to put 'light hearted' in the title)

Tina GAVE BIRTH to baby Jake, it's not her egg (it's Izzy's) She wasn't arsed at all throughout the pregnancy but now he's been born, she keeps saying he's hers and she won't give him back.

HE IS NOT 'hers' in any way shape or form and I a) Can't believe there's nothing that the law could do about this and b) that someone could be so unbelievably and horrifyingly selfish - surely no one would be in real life, no matter how much it hurt?

I would have got a lot more shouty and punchy by now if it was me.

DH likens it to us taking my gorgeous niece away from DILS because 'we love her' and then no one is able to do anything about it.

Stupid, stupid storyline and poor form for Corrie.

Now would someone please pass the Camomile Tea valium

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ThisWayForCrazy · 12/06/2013 20:03

The person who carries the baby is the mother in the eyes of the law in the UK.

Offler · 12/06/2013 20:04

It's just a soap.

ThisWayForCrazy · 12/06/2013 20:05

And tbh I couldn't answer for sure how I would feel about a baby whom I had carried in my body, nourished everyday myself, felt it's first movement and them pushed it in to this world. I can't imagine that, just because, the egg was no mine I wouldn't feel something.

HoppinMad · 12/06/2013 20:07

Its a shit storyline isnt it.

But I learnt something new. Had no idea the woman who carries the baby has the law on her side if she changes her mind. Pretty cruel for the real parents of the baby.

Sparklymommy · 12/06/2013 20:08

Legally the child is Tina's. I know that there is no way on any level that I would be able to be a surrogate because I know that I would become attached and want to keep the child. Tina rushed into this and didn't think it through. However her reasoning is that Gary and Izzys relationship is rocky and she wants to make sure that the child is happy and safe.

A silly story? Maybe. But I am glad they have tackled it. Izzy is quite whiny and selfish and needs to change her whole attitude if she wants to have a hope of getting that child back.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 12/06/2013 20:10

I agree OP. The laws the law yadda yadda. But when all is said and done, the baby isnt hers to keep, whether she gave birth or not.

Cosmosim · 12/06/2013 20:10

Turn that around. How would egg and sperm donation work otherwise? Some random stranger could demand your newborn because she donated an egg.

MayTheOddsBeEverInYourFavour · 12/06/2013 20:10

He is hers legally

And it should highlight that it's a bloody stupid idea to ask some random childless woman who is desperate for money to carry a baby for you

Surrogacy can be an amazing thing but it's not something to mess around with unless you live in soap world

(I do realise it's not real and I rarely watch it, but still )

cogitosum · 12/06/2013 20:11

The whole thing is so bloody predictable. A year or do again when they first introduced the surrogate storyline it was obvious what was going to happen. It would have been more original to do a different ending

StinkyElfCheese · 12/06/2013 20:11

surely a DNA test would prove baby isn't hers though? wasn't there a big case in usa a few years ago about a mother who had different dna to her children? turns out she had 2 sets of DNA

I see an episode of JK on corrie :)

Sallystyle · 12/06/2013 20:13

It takes more than genetics to be a parent.. she carried it and gave birth to him, it's just as much Tina's baby as it is Izzie's and the law supports that.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 12/06/2013 20:13

Izzy is quite whiny and selfish

Oh well, she would never make a good mum then eh?

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VulvaVoom · 12/06/2013 20:14

This I totally get that having a PFB but surely you couldn't totally break someone's heart like that? Especially knowing it's (biologically) their child not yours.

I'm overthinking this aren't I?

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scaevola · 12/06/2013 20:16

In UK, the birth mother, not the genetic one, is the legal parent.

Of the estimated 900 births involving surrogates in UK, only 2 have ended up with the birth mother refusing to hand the baby to the intended parents (who may or may not be the genetic parents).

EhricLovesTeamQhuay · 12/06/2013 20:19

That's why you can't get paid to be a surrogate in this country. Surrogates need to be scrupulously self aware and honest about their motivation. Doing it for money makes it very likely that there will be women who haven't properly thought it through and are more likely to change their minds after the birth.

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VulvaVoom · 12/06/2013 20:22

I'm being pernickety I know but I think the title should read 'To have the rage about the stupid Corrie baby storyline!'

Was driving me mad

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McNewPants2013 · 12/06/2013 20:24

Before having my DC I would of thought that I could just hand over a baby I have carried, but now I have had the pleasure of becoming a mum as soon as I gave birth and looked into my PFB eyes there would be no way I could let him go. That is when I bonded with him as I was disconnected while pregnant.

I think that childless women shouldn't be allowed to be a surrogate because until you have given birth you don't know how you will react.

Steffanoid · 12/06/2013 20:26

stinky there was already a jezza episode for corrie with Tina, David and someone else so he'd be one of their return guests

KobayashiMaru · 12/06/2013 20:27

Of course it is hers. If you have a baby via IVF using a donated egg, is that not yours? How is it different?

StinkyElfCheese · 12/06/2013 20:28

....

will start watching corrie again :)

IneedAsockamnesty · 12/06/2013 20:29

If you enter into this type of arrangement its a risk you take,its a risk you know about and you also know the law is on the side of the woman who gave birth.

LalyRawr · 12/06/2013 20:29

Legally in the UK, 'birth mother' and 'biological mother' are the same thing. DNA, in this instance, is irrelevant.

The baby will have to be registered with Tina as the mother and the father section blank (if she was married the husband would be in tha father section). When the baby is six weeks old, she would then need to sign adoption papers handing PR over to Izzy and her partner. It is only at this point that she stops being legally responsible for the child.

Even if the baby went home with Izzy and her partner, until Tina signed those papers, she could take him back at any time.

Shitty laws, but it is, unfortunately, the way it is in the UK.

crashdoll · 12/06/2013 20:33

You learn something new every day. Before Corrie, I never knew that the surrogate had the legal right even if the egg was not hers. It's a crap storyline though, so YANBU.

carabos · 12/06/2013 21:08

But who, if anyone, is the father and does he have any rights / responsibilities? We know Gary is the biological father- where does he stand legally ( in a rl situation rather than soap land)?

onedev · 12/06/2013 21:27

I'm on Tina's side

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