To feel a little sorry for the 7 children benefits Mum.

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Is just seems like another bit of benefit bashing to me.

I know she shouldn't have had children she couldn't afford, but what hope of improving her lot???

No people are turning into vile DM reading twats.

I agree.... since when was it the norm to have such huge families? Years ago it would be shameful and of course we don't want to go back to that time. But the tide has turned too much the other way. The sense of entitlement, the 'never mind, the state will pay' culture. It's abominable and I think the tide has turned. All hard working people are feeling the squeeze and they are just fed up to the back teeth of seeing stories like this.

I agree with feegle, instead of condemning those who don't know any better, or who don't feel like they can do more with their lives, we should be helping them. It's bloody hard to claw your way up when so many think you're scum.

we should be helping them

we are already.

usual... I am not one of those but I am allowed an opinion. At least I don't resort to name calling. It doesn't work to get a point across.

Helliebean
I agree they need support and encouragement - and to be taught HOW to make changes - I am sure many DO want to make changes but don't know where to start.
With encouragement instead of judgement - they may well WANT to make those changes if it is possible.

They fall for the spin every bloody time.

Funny really

Zebra,

So do you think you and your oh? should be sterilised if you lost your jobs? You know, because you would need help from tax payers.

Well usual unfortunately for you the country seems to be agreeing that they no longer wish to fund the feckless. You know that the tide is turned when even Labour are saying that the benefit culture will have to change

Labour are no better than the Tories.

It's all spin.

People who are in genuine need should always be entitled to our help-its the only decent thing to do. There is a difference between that and the benefits culture which has grew under labour where living on benefits became a lifestyle choice.

100% agree with you on that one usual

Unemployment figures rose again today.

Tell me where all others jobs are then?

I'm in total agreement Davsmum. I talk to people like this a lot... there are those out there who want help and encouragement. Unfortunately, there are those out there too, who just want things the way they are. I agree it's a red rag to a bull type interview... and yes we and probably I sit in judgement... but I do think hardworking couples are absolutely sick to the back teeth of those that get such huge amounts of money from the State when they are struggling to bring up their 1 or 2 children and pay the bills.

FasterStronger, how are we helping? I know there are charities and organisations that offer support, but what about the people who can't access it? I couldn't. Does that mean I didn't want to? No. But it's never as easy as it looks from the outside.

i am not sure people have more children to gain more money but there are many who go on having children with little or no thought about how they themselves shall fund a larger home and the cost of having more children

i never really beleived there was such a culture until i went back to college i met so many people who have no intention of working and claim every bit of money they can and feel entitled to do so with no thought of working and paying into the pot themselves and they all had children. sad t

grumpy in what ways would you propose helping?

Apart from the help she is already receiving (over 2k a month)

Ashoe - go educate yourself on how some women are forced to continually bear children.

See how, for some, it's not a choice and that contraception isn't available to all.

Be open to these possibilities, and others, and then you and I can converse.

I can't engage with close-minded, ignorant people.

I'm tired of trying to explain how common this type of situation is.

My comment about you being a crazy is in reference to your shite sarcastic comment up thread where you tried to make my quite possible explanation look like I had an over active imagination.

Hence why I suggest you educate yourself on the facts.

I will say it again - I am not saying this woman is living the ideal but here's a plausible explanation. Not just a lets fucking judge her to be scum!

My dh had many immigrant clients-they always seem able to find work. Why is that?

I am not saying this women does not deserve some kind of support but do I think that support entitles her to a 6 bedroom house and 2 grand+ a month? Absolutely not.

the sad thing is they were being given an opportunity to change their life many people who are working would not get this chance but it was no appreciated

The best way to stop the benefit culture would be to make life affordable for those who aren't lucky enough to have well paid jobs.
A good start would be to stop fat cat landlords buying up properties and charging extortionate rents. Three houses in my street are owned by the same guy and he charges twice what I pay the housing association.

Also build more affordable housing association houses for hard working families to rent.
It's no wonder people stay on benefits when working means you end up poorer!!

Do you know this women personally feegle?-is that how you know she was "forced" to have 7 kids?

Ashoething.

All people on benefit need our help and support.
They don't need the vile suggestions that you and others have come up with such as forced sterilisation or adoption.
If there are people living on benefit as a lifestyle choice, so what. there have always been a minority of people who have grown up in this situation and then passed it on to the next generation. There always will be. The problem we have are so many ill educated people listening to the spin and reading the rubbish in the Mail.

"Its no wonder people stay on benefits when working means you end uo poorer"-and there in a nutshell is why the welfare state MUST be reformed. It should not be a choice to remain living on benefits.

So solutions on this thread are forced sterilisation and taking the children into care?

God grief I can't believe I'm reading this shite