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To want to give my elderly neighbour "a shake"?

67 replies

SgtTJCalhoun · 08/06/2013 09:42

Neighbour just came out at the same time as I did as I let the dog out. He asked where dc were. I told him still in PJ's. He then informed me:-

EN: that boy of yours should be walking that dog by now.

(ds is 10 and has high functioning autism, dyspraxia, sensory processing disorder and hypermobility - the neighbour knows this, has been told repeatedly)

Me: well he's not really up to that.

ED: what you need to do is MAKE that boy think for himself, he needs a good shake (along with demonstrating physically with his hands and arms what "a good shake" would look like).

Me: you haven't got a clue I am afraid, have a nice day!

Honestly I feel like banging my head against a brick wall sometimes.

Me: oh he's

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BatwingsAndButterflies · 08/06/2013 10:46

Shelly Shock I'm not sure I could have refrained from hitting her!

Shellywelly1973 · 08/06/2013 10:59

We were on the phone!

Needless to say i had very little too with her after that.

She confronted me as to why i was being so distant with her a few weeks ago. I told her why. She seemed to think she was totally entitled to voice her opinion as i had spoken to her about how difficult family life has been the last few years.

I agree she has the right to her opinion. As i have the right to tell her i consider her opinion to be load of b####ks!

tabulahrasa · 08/06/2013 11:00

To be fair, it's not just autism he doesn't know about.

I'd not let any 10 year old take a dog out by themselves.

givemeaboost · 08/06/2013 11:15

Lovely story uppostSmile

tbh any child shouldn't be walking a dog - not unless its old and responsible enough to pick up the dogs poo.

GoblinGranny · 08/06/2013 11:22

'Lovely story uppost'

But it's not just about DS, the neighbour could have been outraged and offended.
He called her old and stupid and said that she might die! Shock
He's huge and gruff with little facial expression, he could have terrified her.
She could have hated him for the rest of his natural life.
But as well as being old and fragile, she was wise and generous of spirit.

AmberLeaf · 08/06/2013 11:28

Goblingranny, what a lovely young man you have.

OP I think you handled your neighbour well.

Other people [without the first clue] and their infinite wisdom eh!

Ive had the 'but he looks normal' and 'really? he's autistic?' as though their untrained eye knows more than the numerous professionals who diagnosed him!

AmberLeaf · 08/06/2013 11:29

...and lovely neighbour too.

Dawndonna · 08/06/2013 11:33

Oh bloody hell, some people are morons.
I had an examinations officer who fucked up ds2s exams recently tell me he was too old for a tantrum and needed to be taught self discipline and control, whilst he was having a complete meltdown due to said exam officer's enormous cock-up.
He is no longer in post.

Dawndonna · 08/06/2013 11:33

(DS2 is eighteen, by the way).

Nanny0gg · 08/06/2013 12:05

Just don't engage with him.
Deflect any questions or comments with something non-committal.

(Slightly) in his defence, his generation would not have any knowledge of autism, aspergers, adhd or dyspraxia, and those children would just be considered 'naughty'. And as you are neighbours and not family, there is no investment for him to learn any different. It's easier to be judgemental.

So don't engage.

BookieMonster · 08/06/2013 12:16

OP, YANBU.

I'd like to think that nearly 14 years of dealing with ADHD and it's various comorbid conditions would give me a tougher skin, but sometimes things just get to you. I think it's the glee and smugness with which some people pontificate at me, as though they're pleased I have this crap to deal with because it shows me up as a parent and they're so much better at parenting than I am.

I have experienced both kindness and acceptance beyond words for my DC and the most shocking opposite from people I had thought were in my corner.
Shelley there are no words.

Loa · 08/06/2013 12:49

He asked where dc were.

I think given this neighbors previous behavior I'd have responded with why - as in what is it to do with you asked politely.

This neighbor isn't going to change - so all you can do is engage less and offer less information as ammunition.

LondonBus · 08/06/2013 12:57

Oh, yes people with depression just need to pull themselves together (no one had depression in the olden days y'know!) and my with aspergers should talk about something other than cars otherwise his brain won't develop properly. (This one was actually said to my DS when he was 8 by his grandmother. Hmm And grandparents on both sides of the family have told me a good hard smack would sort him out. Grin (You've got to laugh or you'd cry)

And I wouldn't let my 10yo take a dog out for a walk, even if we had one.

SgtTJCalhoun · 08/06/2013 13:06

I should have Loa, the run ins don't happen very often so I forget I need to be nasty Grin.

We had an OT who wrote a report about ds, stating he was "extremely naughty" and had "absolutely no willingness when told by his mother to adapt his actions, in spite of the risks of injury to himself and others around him".

No fucking shit Sherlock! Hmm

Last I heard she did NOT get the job she had applied for at that centre.

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olidusUrsus · 08/06/2013 13:07

FWIW I would stop giving the neighbour quite so much of your son's medical information, he has no need to know.

GoblinGranny · 08/06/2013 13:14

'FWIW I would stop giving the neighbour quite so much of your son's medical information, he has no need to know.'

It's insidious though, it creeps up on you.
Starts with 'Why is he walking like that?' and your choice of response.
You might think by saying dyspraxia and hypermobility and explaining a bit that you are beginning to create a climate in your street where he can go out and have some understanding, a bit of acceptance rather than gawping.
Sometimes it works.
Often it doesn't.

SgtTJCalhoun · 08/06/2013 13:14

I've only ever told him he has autism.

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almapudden · 08/06/2013 13:17

Your neighbour is an arse.

I'm shocked at all the people who wouldn't let a NT ten year old walk a dog, though. Really?

GoblinGranny · 08/06/2013 13:18

Sounds reasonable to me.
Your neighbour isn't worth the bother TBH, really not.
Nip into The Goose and Carrot later and have a brew.
I may bring an omelette, it's getting a bit out of hand now. Grin

olidusUrsus · 08/06/2013 13:21

Fair enough Sgt, the "the neighbour knows this - he has been told repeatedly" line in your OP had me thinking something else.

Also fair enough Goblin, I can see how releasing more information than intended could creep up on you. I wasn't criticising though, more seeing it from the DS's point of view, because it's something my mum used to do when I was sick as a child.

Here's to the neighbour pissing off and minding his own in future!

SgtTJCalhoun · 08/06/2013 13:22

Well to be honest I wouldn't either Alma I wouldn't expect a ten year old to know what to do if the dog was attacked or got into a fight etc.

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SgtTJCalhoun · 08/06/2013 13:22

I'll drink to that!!

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eggsandwich · 08/06/2013 13:34

I would of said, well what you need is a bloody good slap!! (I'm a mother of a severely autistic son.)

Jan49 · 08/06/2013 15:57

My ds was diagnosed very late (autistic spectrum) and we were very selective about whom we told, but still found that some of those we told reacted negatively, basically disagreed with the diagnosis. So as a result I didn't ever choose to tell more people.

I think your neighbour needs a good shake.Angry

minouminou · 08/06/2013 18:54

One thing is, as well, that in years gone by, people with various problems like HFA, autism and similar wouldn't have lived with their families, they would have been in a children's home (for want of a more depressing description).
Many older people probably think that if someone's at home, they can't be that bad and do should just bloody well buck up, etc etc....

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