To think mumsnet are helping promote sexist attitudes

[YoniFoolsAndHorses]

Re "girl" and "boy" toys.

I am a 'Mumsnet panelist' and regularly fill in a load of little surveys. I have never win any of the £50 amazon prizes, but actually I have never minded that at all. I can do the little surveys easily on my phone in a few minutes, and I like to think that it's doing my bit to keep mumsnet getting bigger and better.

Until this afternoon.

Until I get a survey about toy cars and trucks to which I would only be elegible to answer if I had a son.

My daughter plays with similar cars and trucks. We know the make involved well. She has fantastic and reasoned opinions on the toys involved too (we tried the survey together - although I didn't submit it - I just answered the first question incorrectly and said she was a boy).

How can this possibly be right that mumsnet is allowing such sexist marketing to continue around 'girl' and 'boy' toys?

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deep tiggy, deep..

I am most dissapointed this hasn't resulted in an actual debate.

Tiggy

Don't be sad, Santa! You have debated an issue all by yourself.

That's very clever! Good boy.

For a debate all sides have to scrupulously avoid being a tit. I feel in this case one of the debaters hasn't quite managed this.

Or for the porpoise of this debate...

I am the porpoise of this debate!

clicky-clicky-clicky-click-click-eeeeeooooowwwwoooooooo

(See, I talk porpoise too) ooooowwwwweeeeeeee!

Santa you asked "army defence and role play, what is wrong with that?" Well...if you're a pacifist, it's violence. Pacifists believe violence in any context is wrong.

So guns, knives, hand grenades, knuckledusters,....broken bottles...whatever...they're all the tools of violence and I think your wife was right not to buy toys in the shape of any of them.

Besides, or you grow up playing with guns, then of course war - as opposed to diplomacy - seems normal.

... if you grow up...

Oh, I thought tiggy was making some kind of gun noise! Was it a dolphin noise instead?

Feeling helpful so will say this nicely to Santa, generally when you join an online forum it's a good idea to lurk a bit first in order to pick up tips on etiquette and the best way to have an intelligent debate, eg starting a new thread for a new topic, not assuming all MNers are the same, and not referring to women as " ladies". There certainly is a place for a debate on pacifism but it's not here.
HTH

VN,

Too impatient for all that lurking malarky. I thought I was being polite by using the term "ladies" rather than "women", but I guess I could start a whole new thread on the reasons why women might be offended at that choice of word.

You win on a technicality.

I grew up plaiong with guns. They fascitate me still and I respect their power and the mechanics. I am one of the most anti crime, anti war and peaceful people you will ever come across.

Did you know there are pink dolphins in Hong Kong?

Santa it's not a competition.

It's also usually a good idea to make any point in a debate about the actual debate itself, rather than try and derail it into something else.

Although men derailing debates about sexism, funnily enough, seems to happen a lot.

I had to google that trills, I didn't believe it!

BIWI yes it does and then they get all hysterical about women "ganging up".

Hello.
This is a statement from Tiggy:

I would like to apologise for my behaviour last night. It was late and I was over-tired.
I am not a dolphin.

Thank you.

And ladies are simpering, handkerchief dropping, swooning chattels from the 18th and 19th century.
Or toilets. None of the women on here are toilets. Although they sometimes have mouths like one.

"Over-tired", haha.

And I had drunk some pop.

"Pop"