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To think fuck off with your competitive parenting!

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HandbagCrab · 27/05/2013 11:41

Ds and I were looking at a bird in an enclosure at an animal centre. Ds can say duck for all birds but I was trying to see if I could get him to say bird too (he's 18 months). This woman spies us and brings her child and parks her buggy next to us so they are practically touching (there's lots of space so this was unnecessary).

She's all 'what colours can you see in the partridge's tail, Jocasta? (Jocasta names some colours) Very good, can you see any other colours too?' in a loud parenting voice.

I feel it's just another bloody example of competitive, constant comparison between dc and I'm so tired of it. I get people are insecure, but why should they get validation from my child because theirs can 'do' more than mine? I know it's not a big deal, but I find these little comparisons happening all the time and this is just the latest and most ridiculous of the lot.

I just walked away from partridge-worrying mum, what do you do with the competitive buggers?

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HandbagCrab · 27/05/2013 13:28

Thinking about it, it is the performance aspect of it. By making the engagement of your child/ren the performance automatically others become the audience, which they didn't sign up to do. By seeking out opportunities to performance parent you're imposing yourself onto someone else and making your experience more important than theirs.

This was in the home counties, as we were on a visit, if that helps.

I talk to ds all the time, just not over someone else talking to their child and unnecessarily in their personal space.

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BoffinMum · 27/05/2013 13:29

Just whip out a fruit shoot and chocolate buttons next time.

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BoffinMum · 27/05/2013 13:32

I saw barely supressed performance parenting at a party venue aimed at boys 6-13 yesterday, while kids were eating their chips. Hilarious! Please let people keep doing it. It allows one to feel so smug, watching it in progress.

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BurnThisDiscoDown · 27/05/2013 13:33

I worry I do this - I talk to DS (22 months) a lot when we're out as I'm trying to get his speech up a bit. I look around, but in a "shit, are people looking at me, do I sound like a twat?" shifty way rather than a "look at meeeeeee" way. Blush

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HandbagCrab · 27/05/2013 13:35

I'm not worried about ds' walking and talking. I've done research and everything is perfectly normal and his vocab from an online thing I did is actually good for his age. Thanks for the concern though Grin

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BalloonSlayer · 27/05/2013 13:35

I am a frustrated competitive parent. My DCs are all doing well at school now but to my intense irritation no-one asks me their grades or reading levels!!! Angry

When they were babies/toddlers, they were late: sitting up, sleeping through the night, rolling over, getting teeth, babbling, eating proper food, talking, walking, potty training, getting dressed, dry at night, riding bikes . . . have I forgotten anything? Well you name it they were crap at it, and I had to endure all and sundry saying "Are they doing xxxx yet?" and me smiling and shrugging and saying "Um, nooooo," and them replying "Ah well never mind, they all get there in the end, hahahaha."

Reading, writing and numbers, however, they are all good at. The trouble is, by the time they get to the age those things matter no one compares any more, the hormones have all drained out and everyone's gone back to being sensible. Sad Most disappointing for those of us with late developers who were desperate to join the competitive parenting party but it's too late, all that's left is some soggy crisps and the Lambrusco.

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AThingInYourLife · 27/05/2013 13:36

"By making the engagement of your child/ren the performance automatically others become the audience, which they didn't sign up to do."

Confused

How do you imagine that works?

People can perform to their hearts content, but nobody can force you to become their audience.

Just ignore them if they are bothering you.

The vast, vast majority of people do not care whether you are listening ti them.

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lostproperty · 27/05/2013 13:37

I once witnessed loud parenting in...a library...So Josie can you tell me what this coin is ??? Yes that's right Josie...IT'S A FIFTY PENCE coin..WELL DONE JOSIE. What about this coin Josie ? COME ON JOSIE, you know it..it's A A A A A P..PP...PP..OUND !!!!! etc..it was really annoying and selfish as well. Twat.

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Callycat · 27/05/2013 13:37

There was a Journey in Morrisons last week.

Do I win £5?

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SomethingOnce · 27/05/2013 13:39

If you're insecure, you're more likely to be looking around at others with whom to compare yourself, and you'll therefore tend to notice how they are parenting. By doing all this noticing, you make yourself the audience.

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Shitsinger · 27/05/2013 13:41

OP take heart that Jocasta eats bogies like all toddlers Grin
Just disengage with fretting about what other parents do - its much easier.

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HandbagCrab · 27/05/2013 13:45

burn as I've said I talk to ds all the time and I probably sound like an idiot. It's the whole look round, loud voice, saying something that comes across as very advanced/ cultured/ educated that you know the child can answer well to show to your audience how clever your dc is and by extension what a marvellous parent you are.

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RollingThunder · 27/05/2013 13:47

I was at the doctors once with my ds, who was around 2 and another mum sat down next to me and started talking to me.

Now I had never met her in my life before (or since) ds was playing happily (for once) and I was flicking through a magazine so it's not like I was inviting conversation.

She was also with her similarly aged ds who was also playing and so she sits down next to me (total stranger remember) and says; "I know, he's just SO verbal, I just can't believe it, I don't know who he gets it from, my other two weren't like this, just him. It's just so amazing. Etc, etc."

I really didn't care at all, and just smiled politely and said "you must be very proud."

Now the thing is that ds has Social communication issues and the first sign of that was that he was highly, highly verbal very young.

Her face when he came over and spoke to me was a picture! she went "oh yours is quite verbal too!" And never said another word to me!

Now THAT was competitive parenting!!!!

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Samnella · 27/05/2013 13:49

YANBU about competitive parenting but it depends on what you mean. I can see how the scenario you give may or may not have been competitive parenting TBH. I wont go over all the reason why but people have covered it. I think you would have had to be there to know.

I hate competitive parenting and as my children are now a bit older I have learnt not to take part. After all its not a competition if there is only one person competing. WinkI have a few acquaintances/friends who do this and I have called them up on it at times.

My most recent experience was a 'friend' having worked out my DD may not have sat the level 3 Maths SATs for year 2 . DD came out of school saying she and 7 other children had been taken out of the class to do an activity in another class whilst the rest did a test on maths. I figured it must be the level 3 maths and as I know DD struggles with maths that made sense. The next morning I bump into the said friend. She asks me if DD had been taken out of the class with X,Y AND z. I said yes why? She then starts going on about how that is what her DD had told her and it must have been due to the rest of the class taking the level 3 SATs. Hmm I have no idea why this woman cares what my DD is doing and what she was hoping to gain but there you go. This is the same woman who took my DD out to the cinema and came back to say they has practiced maths whilst out and she was "so surprised" her DD could do sums that mine couldn't. They were 4 at the time!

I have another acquaintance who every time I see her tells me how "they are flying" with her DD as she is 2 years ahead and is absolutely convinced of a place at the local highly competitive grammar school. The girl is 7 years old FGS!

You will come across more and more of it as time goes on. Most of the time its best to just smile and nod. It says much more about them and their insecurities.

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Shitsinger · 27/05/2013 13:49

" Its the whole look round,loud voice"

Just ignore it !( or walk away snorting with laughter which is what my DH does)

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PuppyMonkey · 27/05/2013 13:50

I am laughing at "indoor voices please!" Grin

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 27/05/2013 14:08

Me too... 'indoor voices, please!'... brilliant. Grin

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KenDoddsDadsDog · 27/05/2013 14:13

My best loud parenting observation was "Dallas" being coaxed to do "heads,shoulders,knees and toes " in a shop queue while he stood rigidly refusing.

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Nanny0gg · 27/05/2013 14:13

So when I took my nearly two-year-old DGC to the zoo the other day and said, 'No, sweetheart, chimp ' when he said 'monkey' and ' lemur ' when he said 'monkey' I was wrong? (No other toddlers about, just adults btw).
And as he doesn't really know his colours yet, ' pink ' pig and ' brown ' pig when we looked in the pigpen?

Oops.

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Nokidshere · 27/05/2013 14:17

I can never see the problem with other people's parenting... Maybe I walk round with my eyes closed but, to be honest, I only ever really notice if a child is being treated badly.

My own two boys were pretty average as toddlers in terms of speech, but I still talked to them, asked questions, made silly or educational comments to them. And if anyone wanted to directly compare them to their own I would simply smile and say something suitable like " that's nice".

The 3 year old I look after now is a prolific talker. Not only does he have a massive vocabulary but he asks questions from morning till night and he wants answers. We have been in the supermarket and talked about aubergines and passion fruit, what colour veggies are and how may of each colour can he see. We go out to the park and talk about gravity and snails..because he wants to know. It's not enough for me to tell him that yes a swing goes,up and down.. He wants to know why. If I don't know the answers to some of his questions ( and believe me there are plenty I don't know) I tell him we will go home and google it LOL

I don't care how other people parent, how loud or quiet they are, or if they are bursting with pride about their child's achievements . I go about my business (which is mainly caring for children) in the way that I think is best for each child. People do seem to read far more into these situations than they need to - maybe that's because of their own inadequate feelings about themselves as a parent or about the abilities of their child.

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LoveBeingUpAt4InTheMorning · 27/05/2013 14:19

Maybe she wanted to talk to you and that's why she was so close?

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BalloonSlayer · 27/05/2013 14:23

I expect she wanted the OP to talk to her, actually.

She wanted the OP to say "Ooh, isn't your little girl clever?"

Which is what we all want. Really.

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BirdintheWings · 27/05/2013 14:26

AlienBanana "I used to do this at the zoo... 'do you know what that bird us, DS?' Mostly because when DS said kookaburra it came out very very wrong"

Oh me too. Especially near the wallabies. Somehow I never tired of getting them to answer 'Wobblies!' and snurking quietly to myself...

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CombineBananaFister · 27/05/2013 14:52

I know where you're coming from but don't think interactive/loud parenting is always intended to be performance parenting.

I've been on the receiving end of the rolled eyes and smug accusatory glances when out with Ds when he says something smart and it's not nice. It's not a stealth boast either as he's no genius child he's just very good with numbers/shapes. I almost feel embarassed and like I can't praise him because of peoples sarcasticness.

E.g. Last week in Disney store
Ds: 'hey mum this is a dodecahedron isn't it?'
que snidey comments: 'really? as, if, bet he was told to say that etc' with eye-rolls
me: Ermm, yeah Blush Confused (Not something he's learnt from me)

If they'd seen him 2 mins earlier trying to eat bubbles out of a blower in a toyshop it would've been entirely different.

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CalamityKate · 27/05/2013 14:52

I generally creep round places 10 paces behind the DSs in the hope that nobody will realise they're mine.

Maybe when DS2 shouted "OH GROSS! LOOK AT THAT MONKEY! IT'S PLAYING WITH ITS WINKIE!! HAHAHAHA LOOK LOOK LOOK!" I should have beamed proudly and gone "Yes! How clever of you to have noticed that the monkey is masturbating!"

Rather than cringing with shame and stepping back another couple of yards.

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