'I don't want to share air space with this individual' Bus buggy issue

[Hummuschocolate]

If on the off chance the woman who said this on a North London bus during a luggage vs buggy barney is reading this, is there anything we as the other passengers could have done to support you. I've been thinking about it since it happened (this morning) and I'm not sure if we really did 'community' well. I think you were in the right but you did seem to be holding your own so was it ok for us to sit back and cringe. Hope you are okay now, you did sound a bit shaken.

There was a pigeon on my bus the other week. It was upstairs. Nobody noticed it until the bus was quite full and then it started flapping about in a panic. Some people were trying to catch it but quite a few others were screaming and ducking - lots of people really don't like having flapping birds near them. Someone did eventually catch it and had to carry it downstairs and put it out of the door as it was too big to go through the window. Everybody clapped.

The whole thing was very dramatic and I was tempted to say 'I've had it with this m**fing pigeon on this mf**ing bus'

Plenty Now, that was a GOOD bus story. OP, take note!

I've been on a bus where there was an argument and the driver got off and walked away...

Buses never used to have a space for buggy users to put their buggies. People used to have to fold their buggy before getting on the bus. And now if there are two buggies using the space any further buggy users wishing to get on the bus are supposed to fold their buggy the same as before. Then they started putting in a space in order to make buses accessible to wheelchair users. They take priority. Any legal right to the space belongs to them. However these spaces are often not taken up with wheelchair users and others sensibly enough use them for buggies, luggage, bulky items and standing passengers. This woman had no more right to that space than the man did whatever she might think about it.

If there is no room for you on the bus then you can't get on the bus. She should have folded her buggy or got off, not been a cunt to some bloke who either can't afford to move his stuff except by bus or has mental health issues.

at pixel and the bus driver.

If she was bullying or being unreasonable that doesn't change because he held his own.

Ugh. This is why I never travel on buses. People carry toilet seats around with them?

< not envy...

Waffly he didn't come back either . I said to the person next to me "does anyone know how to drive a bus?", not realising that in the shocked silence everyone would hear, and they all laughed while I sat and cringed like .
We had to wait for the next bus so its driver could call the depot for someone to come and rescue us. Not sure my boss believed my reason for being so late for work!

He might still be walking, beard to his knees, worn out trainers, a dog on a string and followers throwing money at him for 'whatever charity it's for'.

I have taken note Plenty that was a great bus story. I think I was maybe a bit irrational and dramatic when I posted my OP. I really hate confrontation and sometimes witnessing it makes me a bit weird. So apologises to anyone I've annoyed. I think it would be a great coincidence if buggy lady saw the thread but I doubt she'd want to join in the discussion. So I'll just chalk it all up to experience and only discuss incidents involving tigers, pigeons or smurfs on buses from now on

I think it would be great if buggy lady joined the thread. I haven't used the word entitled for a little while.

God this has to be one of the dullest stories I've read on MN.

"If she was bullying or being unreasonable that doesn't change because he held his own"

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I agree with this. However, it would give passengers a lot less of a reason to intervene as things can quickly spiral out of control if different people start taking different sides. Generally, I believe two adults are capable of resolving their own dispute.

If distress, violence, or completely unacceptable behaviour (ie. racist language) became part of the picture, I would then take that as a reason to intervene.

Just personally, not saying this is the right way to do things. Just explaining my own thought processes around it.