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AIBU?

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to want my child to be free of religion at school?

229 replies

cherryade8 · 18/05/2013 14:21

I've startedlooking at schools and attending open days for my dd. Even the supposedly secular schools teach about religion and seen to have display boards with posters and pupils work explaining the intricacies of each religion.

I'm not religious and don't wish dd to be exposed to more than a cursory explanation of religion at school. What people choose to teach their children outside of school is none of my business, why does the curriculum seem to want to force it on children? It seems to be the case in both state and private schools.

Aibu?

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Wishiwasanheiress · 18/05/2013 17:28

You are coming across as ignorant, idiotic, whiny, snobbish and stupid. Not necessarily in that order. BU is just a tiny part unfortunately. For all the reasons previously posted by others. Some excellent posts here. (This not one of them but adding penneth anyway)

overprotection · 18/05/2013 17:28

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius as I explained I would expect religion would get a mention, it just wouldn't be so disproportionately focused on as it is at the moment. Religion is a tiny subset of the various cultural/social aspects that make up the world we live in, and does not warrant the excessive amount of time spent on it at school.

Nehru · 18/05/2013 17:29

"If you do not bow your head and say a prayer that means nothing to you, you are being naughty."

what exact evidence do you have of that?

Noorny · 18/05/2013 17:32

It does not surprise me for one minute overprotection that your understanding of business is limited to a reality TV show.

Nehru · 18/05/2013 17:35

LOVING the row

carry on

sits down

rabbitlady · 18/05/2013 17:36

i don't want children to catch diseases but i think they ought to know what they are and why people get them.

religion is the key motivation in the lives of billions of people. if your dd does not know about religions her education will be incomplete and she won't be prepared for the world she has to live in.

also, as teaching r e is my job, i need the customers, so keep 'em coming...

nooka · 18/05/2013 17:37

I'm an atheist brought up as Catholic and from a religious family. I think that worship does not belong in schools and was very angry to find our local community school had a very strong religious bent essentially because of a friendship between the head and a local vicar. I did not appreciate my dd coming home and telling me very firmly about god stuff that she now believed as a result of 'Father x' and how he was right because his house was bigger than ours (weird child logic there!).

However a few years fast forward and we now live in Canada where education is totally secular and they learn nothing about religion at all. This leaves some odd gaps in their general knowledge, and I do think a grounding in why people believe and the core tenets of the major faiths is important to know.

overprotection · 18/05/2013 17:41

Ahh Noorny, Noorny, Noorny. First we've had your comical attempt to portray yourself as a jetsetting super genius who runs a string of multinationals whilst picking up certificate after certificate from top institutions, and now you've moved onto baseless assumptions about the education of someone you know nothing about. How about some "Yo momma is so fat..." jokes to make it a hat-trick?

NicholasTeakozy · 18/05/2013 17:57

A direct quote from DD1 "Studying theology made me realise atheism was the only sane option".

So YABU.

tethersend · 18/05/2013 17:59

I want my child to know about Hitler, but I'd rather passages of Mein Kampf weren't used in assembly for quiet reflection.

Same for religion.

Sirzy · 18/05/2013 17:59

Overprotection - do you really not appreciate the massive impact which religion has on so many aspects on modern life and history? Not only of this country but worldwide? Do you not think children need to understand that to even begin to understand the world in which they are living in?

gordyslovesheep · 18/05/2013 18:03

I was raised Christian - sang in choir, helped in Sunday school etc

I am now a humanist - and living proof that learning about religion and being exposed to it doesn't make you blind to other views

My mum is a committed Christian but she always let us have our own beliefs and never ever insisted we blindly follow her views

I feel the same - I will not sheid my children from religious ideas, information about faiths or religious people.

How do you make a choice to reject or accept a faith if you know nothing about them - teaching about faith and even participating in prayer wont harm a child.

My children will have the right to make their own choices about faith and I will support them - so I actively expose them to all ideas rather than censor their learning

Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:03

Tethers That's ludicrous

ivykaty44 · 18/05/2013 18:03

for those of you that feel it is really important to learn about other religions at school- why not do that at home?

For those parents that don't want their children to learn about other religions due to thier own religion being the only religion they send them to faither schools where re is taught in a different way.

So why do we bother to teach this subject?

Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:04

Because parents might know jack shit?

Same argument for any subject. French. Geography. Citizenship

tethersend · 18/05/2013 18:06

Nehru, I just mean there's a difference between teaching children about religion and presenting it to them as fact.

It's the latter I object to.

Sirzy · 18/05/2013 18:10

Lets just stop sending children to school by that logic ivy. Parents can teach everything can't they, and of course when it comes to something as emotive as religion parents are well known for giving children a broad understanding of all religions.

Decoy · 18/05/2013 18:10

YABU. Religions are very influential throughout the world, whatever your own beliefs. An understanding of how they work is beneficial in understanding current affairs, cultural history and learning tolerance.

gordyslovesheep · 18/05/2013 18:12

Ivykaty do you feel able to teach about all faiths? I am not that well informed - I take my girls to different temples and open days etc but I don't know as much about other faiths as I do the one I was raised in.

SuffolkNWhat · 18/05/2013 18:12

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Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:13

They don't present it as fact. You need to go and watch a lesson.

Badvoc · 18/05/2013 18:13

RE is a part of the NC.
Yabu.

Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:13

Cheers last post.

Re is an examination of faith. Not an advert for it.

Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:15

The law is you have to cover Christianity but you can't JUST do that.
All faiths presented objectively "believes would be opposed to abortion because "

Nehru · 18/05/2013 18:15

"Believers "