To think Australia have really gone and done it now?? Shocked and disgusted.

[NeoMaxiZoomDweebie]

Australia have removed themselves from the UN Refugee Convention.

here...this happened only today

They've basically decided that ANY refugee coming to Australia on a boat will now be "processed" on one of their offshore facilities....like Manus Island where there have been numerous suicide attempts and conditions are DREADFUl with people slepeing in places with no doors or in metal storage containers...this is in HIGH heat.

I am shocked. And disappointed... we are talking about refugees here. People already traumatised and lost. The places they're being sent to now are already under investigation for their disgusting conditions.

That is what you would like to talk about.

But you don't know how many of those people illegally attempting to enter Australia are legitimate refugees fleeing real danger for their lives.

OMG

Yahoo fucking answers as 'evidence'?

That was funny.

Cote...yes...the thread is about refugees. We can't start guessing how many are legal! That's just stupid avoidance of the real issue. It's like me saying "Oh the bedroom tax is disgusting because it's penalizing the disabled." and someone chiming in "Oooh yes but what about all those selfish people who have three spare rooms and money to move but choose not to!?"

Does it invalidate the experiences of the disabled who need the extra space for their equipment? Ofcourse not!

Neo it doesn't really matter what I am referencing. I could easily find other references. But to say that this is not happening in schools is untrue and its not just London.

www.savethechildren.org.au/sites/noborders/providing-support-to-vulnerable-children-on-manus-island/ Save the Children certainly don't think children belong on Manus Island...have a look at the link.

STC believe that adults and children would do better in community accommodation. Real damage is being done to generations of the future here.

Go on then Fluer. Find a decent reference. It DOES matter what you reference because you're chatting away about things which are not true.

Tbh Fluer you sound like Alf Garnett.

Go on then. Find other references.

Christmas, Diwali, Eid, Vaisakhi, all celebrated locally and in schools across inner-city Birmingham. Nobody is offended apart from the Daily Fail

Again, you would like it to be all about miserable refugees escaping death and torture, but it is about all immigrants that attempt to illegally enter Australia.

If they are really escaping death & torture, surely these offshore facilities they will be waiting at while their application is processed would be an improvement?

If this legislation is really implemented, there should be a dramatic decrease in asylum seekers, so the legitimate refugees fleeing death and torture would be processed and admitted for legal residence in far less time.

As I said before, I don't have a dog in this fight but have to say that it is not as clearcut as you would like to believe.

In the seventies we had some friends come to visit us in Sydney. They lived in South Africa. They were shocked by the casual racism they saw in Australia. I have already given up my Australian citizenship because of the unlovely view towards their fellow immigrants.

I am lucky that I have this luxury. I do not believe all Australians are racist, but those that aren't must stand up for their fellow world citizens. Please make your voice heard - if you have the vote ther write to your representitive/ senetor. If like me you live overseas and have a flag of convenience the renounce your passport publically ih the international press.

No Cote...it is NOT all about Immigrants...and living in a metal container with no decent medical supplies to hand is NOT an improvement and you are sounding more and more ignorant with every post.

I am flabbergasted at your ignorance tbh. "Oh they've come from shit lets just put them in shit." that's more or less what you are saying Cote. How disgusting.

That is not what I've said at all. You really need to calm down. As I said before, your recent posts are making you look unhinged.

it is about PEOPLE. Fellow human beings who have suffered. Not about "your patch" and "your money".

Cote I do not need to calm down at all. Your last post was awful. And please don't do the old MN thing of "You sound mad" as a way to deflect criticism. It's a horribly sexist thing to do and comes from the old attitude of the "hysterical woman".

If you are interested in campaigning for the facilities to improve and for a school to open for asylum seekers' children in those facilities, I would be the first to congratulate you.

In fact, if you read a bit you will see that construction for a permanent facility (i.e. not tents and not metal containers) is soon to start in preparation for the implementation of this recent legislation.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4102277.stm...there you go ladies if you really need me to do it and there are many more but you can find them for yourself, Im sure.

Yes yes they've been saying that for years Cote. They're not great at delivering the goods though. One doctor (Aussie) who worked out there asked repeatedly for oxygen and other medical supplies only to find they never came. He said there were children there with dangerous conditions and that the place is far too remote to keep such people at. I'll believe their promises when I see them...not holding my breath.

There is nothing "sexist" about one woman telling another that her shouty hyperbole is making her look unhinged

Fluer your link does not work. I would add a cheerful smile but I'm all out.

Cote yes there is.

But you can still follow the link

Construction starts in July, apparently.

If it does, will you be happy?

Again, you would like it to be so, Neo.

There is a pattern developing here.