To think Australia have really gone and done it now?? Shocked and disgusted.

[NeoMaxiZoomDweebie]

Australia have removed themselves from the UN Refugee Convention.

here...this happened only today

They've basically decided that ANY refugee coming to Australia on a boat will now be "processed" on one of their offshore facilities....like Manus Island where there have been numerous suicide attempts and conditions are DREADFUl with people slepeing in places with no doors or in metal storage containers...this is in HIGH heat.

I am shocked. And disappointed... we are talking about refugees here. People already traumatised and lost. The places they're being sent to now are already under investigation for their disgusting conditions.

Fleur are you talking about Australia in relation to people not being allowed to celebrate things?

No...Britain.

Well the thread is not about Britain so I'm not sure why.

I stood upon the rocky shores, I saw the tall ships come
For forty thousand years
I was the first Australian

Because Im explaining the long term affects of not controlling and vetting refugees and immigration.....in my opinion.

Britain is an example of how it can get out of hand very quickly.

No, NeoMaxi, that is not clear at all.

Even if your intention is to attack the Australian government, you really shouldn't find it surprising if many Australians go on the defense since it happens to be their elected government.

Fleur, it IS bullshit.

That just does not happen.

Please give details of the 'many areas inner cities and suburbs' this has happened in.

Effects...not "affects".

We were in London around Christmas last year, and celebrations were in full swing, if anyone is interested.

Cote...you know what? I don't give a shit about some well fed Aussie who has no idea about what it means to have to live in a metal container with their kids...to have no decent utilities including water...to have no right to go to a shop or to have a proper education....I really couldn't give a shit if you're offended. I give a shit about people who have no voice and no power and nobody to help them.

Neo you really are a rude woman. Fancy actually pointing out someones mistake with grammer. Ha ha.

And Amber where have you been for the last 20 years. Its been happening and it is happening. There are many threads on here about it.

Cote, someone elected that government didn't they?

Same as some in Britain are responsible for electing our own gov.

I didn't vote in this gov, so if an australian started a thread criticising it, I would say 'yep, I agree it is very wrong' etc etc.

I don't think Id start talking about the shitty stuff australia has done. I wouldn't take it personally, unless it was my beliefs/opinions/actions that were being attacked.

I'm not offended, especially since I'm from another continent and have never even been to Australia.

Your recent posts make you look slightly unhinged, FYI.

And it is in schools that the traditions are not allowed to be upheld.

And Amber where have you been for the last 20 years

Umm, I have been living in inner city London funnily enough!

You are talking out of your arse IMO...or reading/believing the daily mail.

No Amber. It happens in a lot of schools and institutions . My friends have to put up with it a lot and it does sadden them.

Amber - I'm not so sure that it such a horrible thing to deter immigrants washing up on one's shore. Many people here seem to think that the 15,000 immigrants into Australia each year are all refugees escaping death and torture, but as someone else said, those people prefer to go by land to their country's nearest neighbour, and are unlikely to scrape together $1000s/person necessary to pay the smugglers.

It is a tough and morally ambiguous question, imho.

No it doesn't Fluer.

You are lying/talking shit......take your pick.

Cote I wasn't referring to YOU...,just to the general Australian population who love to get wound up about these things and at the same time remove themselves and distance themselves from the faceless hoards of potential immigrants that they fear.

And Fluer...maybe it IS rude but you've made so many ignorant statements on this thread that I truly think you need the help.

Cote we are not talking about IMMIGRANTS but about REFUGEES.

uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111205122646AArd3Nh
just one example.

And of course it happens. Im sorry but I think you are the one who is talking rubbish.

Fluer a link to YAHOO ANSWERS does not a reliable example make. YA is the known haunt of children and nutters.