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to be sickened by the level of violence and gore in horror films these days?

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dontmeanto · 13/05/2013 16:41

...and the sheer volume of them??

DP and I went to hire a film Saturday night as a treat and couldn't believe just how many of these films were on the New Arrivals shelves.

Various plots on abduction, torture, force, maiming, etc.

I guess I just don't get why people are entertained by these films? I find them disturbing at best and absolutely disgusting at worst.

I just don't want those types of things in my head, and I worry there's a generation out there that will in some way become desensitised to this level of violence by making these films "cool" to watch with friends.

I remember being shocked by Scream when I was a teen, but these now are a billion times worse!

AIBU?

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StuntGirl · 13/05/2013 23:34

I am DYING laughing from this thread

Jesus Claig, no wonder you don't like horror films, what goes on in your head is terrifying enough Grin

claig · 13/05/2013 23:38

As Orwell wrote about the woman who was a prole and who saw the depiction of violence sold as entertainment

"it aint right"

but

"nobody cares what the proles say"

They sell the proles what they want them to see and if they object, they tell them that they can't distinguish fiction from reality.

claig · 13/05/2013 23:39

'what goes on in your head is terrifying enough'

If common sense and decency terrifies you, then they have done their job on you and desensitised you to their crap.

claig · 13/05/2013 23:41

'I am DYING laughing from this thread'

The audience and the party laughed at the film that Orwell described.

KansasCityOctopus · 14/05/2013 00:50

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InLoveWithDavidTennant · 14/05/2013 01:49

kansas Grin

think ill avoid the next horror movie thread... if there is one after this Confused

dontmeanto · 14/05/2013 06:09

Hi, OP here.

Not quite the direction I envisioned this thread going but erm...thank you for your insight, claig.

As for me, IA clearly BU by starting this thread on the bad men in suits. Clearly society is doing just fine.

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BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 06:26

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claig · 14/05/2013 07:32

'Quick, everyone put on your tinfoil hats before they read your brainwaves!!'

They don't want to read your brainwaves. They are changing your brain and feelings by desensitising you to violence. That is all they want.

'Not quite the direction I envisioned this thread going but erm...thank you for your insight, claig.'

Some people believe that the reason for it is the market and for money. But it is about much more than that.

claig · 14/05/2013 07:42

The woman in Orwell's book was right when she said

"they didnt oughter of showed it"

Everyone now says "I don't believe in censorship", but of course there should be censorship to prevent crap that desensitises people to violence being shown. They say they are only meeting a market need and giving people what they want. But they are lying.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 07:44

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claig · 14/05/2013 07:48

Thankfully, we have someMps calling for more censorship in these areas

"Mr Brazier's British Board of Film Classification (Accountability to Parliament and Appeals) Bill has cross party support but would need Government backing to become law.

It aims to make the BBFC more accountable by setting up a new appeals body, giving MPs a say in appointments to the committee and a veto over its guidelines, enabling them to be "tightened" up.
The Bill would also allow 50 MPs signing a Commons motion to trigger an appeal against a BBFC ruling to restore cut material or lower the classification of a film.

Mr Brazier cited as an example, a video previously banned but re-examined by the BBFC and released in 2005 called SS Experiment Camp.
"The film shows in voyeuristic detail women being tortured to death by SS camp guards."

In another case, he said the film Irreversible featured a nine-minute rape scene, adding: "If this is not glamorising rape then it is difficult to imagine what would be."

Mr Brazier said a Ministry of Justice report published last year spoke of "negative psychological, attitudinal and behavioural effects" of extreme pornographic material, such as increased aggression.

He said: "There will always be those who claim you can have a correlation without a cause, that this whole phenomenon can be explained away by saying those prone to rape have a greater pre-disposition to view pornographic material.

"We don't accept it and never have accepted it in areas like simulated child pornography or racist literature."

He said there was evidence of copycat links to violent films, including the one where two 10-year-old schoolboys were convicted of murdering toddler James Bulger in a case which had "striking similarities" to a violent video rented by the father of one of the boys."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-522947/The-Government-given-film-censorship-powers-violent-movies-claims-Tory-MP.html

claig · 14/05/2013 07:50

Of course what people watch affects their minds.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 07:52

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claig · 14/05/2013 07:52

"Film censors were accused last night of being "completely out of touch" after they admitted they no longer cut violent scenes from 18-rated movies.

Critics said the British Board of Film Classification's members had adopted a policy of "anything goes" and were a "law unto themselves".
The controversy was triggered by the board's decision to approve the ultra-violent film Eastern Promises without any cuts."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488920/Censors-admit-longer-cut-violence-movies.html

Progressives have been so manipulated that they can no longer say enough is enough and make a stand for common decency. It goes against their market principles and their belief in freedom without constraint, in their abdication of the belief in censorship.

claig · 14/05/2013 07:55

'It hasn't affected mine, Claig'

beerTricks, it has affected you. It has desensitised you, which is why you are able to watch it without feeling the revulsion that your grandparents would have felt if they had watched.

They have made this crap mainstream and they review it and make money out of it and bring up a new generation insensitive to it.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 07:56

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claig · 14/05/2013 07:58

Of course it is. I believe in censorship in order to maintain decency. I am not a progressive, I believe some of these men in suits should be prosecuted for the violence and obscenity that they profit from and inflict on the public.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 08:03

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claig · 14/05/2013 08:06

We have campaigns like "Let Girls be Girls" to stop the crap that "someone has made up"

www.mumsnet.com/campaigns/let-girls-be-girls

We know that what children and adults see can affect their minds and behaviour, and we are against the people who "make this stuff up" profiting from it at the expense of society.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/05/2013 08:09

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claig · 14/05/2013 08:09

'You're replacing one set of 'men in suits' with another one if you go down that road.'

Yes. Someone has to be in charge. We need leadership that follows the wishes of the public and the majority. We can't let the men in suits have free rein to dismantle every edifice of our society in order to achieve their hidden aims by desensitising people and selling them mind-altering crap.

KansasCityOctopus · 14/05/2013 08:11

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