to be sickened by the level of violence and gore in horror films these days?

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...and the sheer volume of them??

DP and I went to hire a film Saturday night as a treat and couldn't believe just how many of these films were on the New Arrivals shelves.

Various plots on abduction, torture, force, maiming, etc.

I guess I just don't get why people are entertained by these films? I find them disturbing at best and absolutely disgusting at worst.

I just don't want those types of things in my head, and I worry there's a generation out there that will in some way become desensitised to this level of violence by making these films "cool" to watch with friends.

I remember being shocked by Scream when I was a teen, but these now are a billion times worse!

AIBU?

Are you seriously talking about The Illuminati?

Do the Illuminati wear suits or do they dress casual? I don't know who the Illuminati are or where they hang out.

Judas Cradle

The Pear

Etc.

Trust me, people are not as brutal as they used to be.

Drugs alter minds and so does their depiction of violence and evil.

'Trust me, people are not as brutal as they used to be.'

Yes, that was in real life, but not in fictional portrayals about from some weirdos who were jailed and locked in towers.

Humanity advanced and cruelty and evil was removed from the public realm to a great degree. The depiction of evil and cruelty in the public realm now is a harbinger of what they want to come.

I'm fairly sure the level of graphic detail and gore were significantly higher when the violence was happening in real life, to real people, just a few feet away from baying crowds. I doubt any special effects could rival the brutality of sitting in an amphitheatre 2000 years ago and watching a man get ripped apart by a lion right in front of your eyes, for example. And "the men in suits" isn't really a very helpful answer to the question we've been asking.

Gosh, Urbane, I'm glad you've come along to talk some sense into me.

I think, again, my main points are being missed. 1) how extremely violent these films are, which COULD POSSIBLY lead to, in the long run, a desensitised generation.

And 2) the fact that there are SO MANY of them readily accessible and infiltrating mainstream mass media. Right below one of The Hostel films was Madagascar 3, for fuck's sake.

I am by no means one for censorship but I find it hard to believe that young people exposing themselves to this shit won't, SOMETIMES, walk away being altered (disturbed, saddened...impacted negatively in some way) to the extreme nature of violence in these films.

Off I trot to try and get rid of the demons in my head.

MN has went fucking loony the past couple of nights.

'MN has went fucking loony the past couple of nights.'

I agree. All the violent gore fans have been out and about. Has there been a full moon?

Cross post there - okay, so you're saying that "they" (putting aside the ever-present question of who exactly they are) want us to go back to the time when violence and brutality was a part of everyday life, rather than largely fictional. Why? Again, what would "they" gain from that?

'Why? Again, what would "they" gain from that?'

Because they want to undermine society and overturn the status quo. They are like the revolutionaries who want to destroy in order to rebuild a society on their terms. they are sending messages and brainwashing the masses who pay to watch their crap in order to undermine them and break their boundaries and morals. They sell evil, violent movies and messages because they are destructive and want to destroy the status quo in order to create a new world on their terms, a world where evil and brutalisation will be commonplace and where people will have become so broken, demoralised and desensitised that they will not be able to resist.

Pimp "They" would be the Fabian Society.

Orwell foresaw it and he wrote a book about what they intended to do.

They is not the Fabians. I think the Fabians are merely puppets, they are not in control of diddly squat.

Do you even know who "they" are?

I know that they are not the puppets and the twats with cameras who churn the crap out.

But you don't actually have a scooby who they are apart from that?

Meh I enjoy extreme cinema, horror films, although I don't particularly like pure gross out, such as Saw and Human Centipede, I thought they were poor and badly acted,the last scene of the first Saw film, with the hysteric over acting put me off. HC was just laughable and ridiculous.

I did enjoy both hostel 1 and 2, 1 because of the intriguing premise, 2 because of the kick ass resolution .

I don't watch anything with any graphic sexual violence (or ff), I can't be doing with that, but anything else is fair game.

The only horror movies to ever give me nightmares were Halloween and Nightmare on elm street, both watched too young. The first full length adult novel I read was a horror and my Mum was a card carrying Stephen King fan, I had no chance .

'But you don't actually have a scooby who they are apart from that?'

No. I use a process of elimination and rule out all the puppets to get a better idea of who runs the sick show that they sell to the public.

The decent horror films are the psychological ones that are all about what you can't see not what you can imo!

They don't make horror's like they used to. I think a lot of modern 'horror' films are rubbish their more about the latest graphics than a decent plot line with actual scare factor rather than Eeeww factor.

pmsl - this thread got scarier than any horror film - people are very odd

From Orwell's 1984

"April 4th, 1984. Last night to the flicks. All war films. One very good one of a ship full of refugees being bombed somewhere in the Mediterranean. Audience much amused by shots of a great huge fat man trying to swim away with a helicopter after him, first you saw him wallowing along in the water like a porpoise, then you saw him through the helicopters gunsights, then he was full of holes and the sea round him turned pink and he sank as suddenly as though the holes had let in the water, audience shouting with laughter when he sank. then you saw a lifeboat full of children with a helicopter hovering over it.
.......
then the helicopter planted a 20 kilo bomb in among them terrific flash and the boat went all to matchwood. then there was a wonderful shot of a child's arm going up up up right up into the air a helicopter with a camera in its nose must have followed it up and there was a lot of applause from the party seats but a woman down in the prole part of the house suddenly started kicking up a fuss and shouting they didnt oughter of showed it not in front of kids they didnt it aint right not in front of kids it aint until the police turned her turned her out i dont suppose anything happened to her nobody cares what the proles say typical prole reaction they never --"

The party and some of the people have become desensitised to the gore, but there are still proles who know it isn't right.

Well I can see why violent films scare you, claig, if you have that much trouble distinguishing a fictional work from reality.

When people witness horrific violence and cruelty in real life, the effect on their minds can stay with them forever and they often suffer post traumatic stress.

Wtaching fictional crap that displays graphic violence is an assault on the senses and sensibilities of people and also has a lasting impression on their minds. Witnessing graphic horror is not entertainment.