Prince Harry

[emeraldgirl1]

AIBU to find it impossible NOT to have a sneaky crush?

Like pretty much every grown woman in America, apparently...

Only a few years ago I was openly mocking a friend for her minor obsession with him.

And oh god I have just realised my mum fancies him too...

I love a royal conspiracy, but I don't think there is any doubt about his parentage. He looks very much like charles. The eyes and nose/brow particularly.

The 'paki' comment isn't something I would do or anyone I associate with, but I know that vile banter is par for the course in the forces.

The nazi get up...as someone has said it was what he wore to a bad taste party forgivable IMO.

Is not being very academic a crime now? He has excelled in his chosen career and from what little I've read about is very highly thought of amongst his colleagues.

I like him.

After watching something he did on BBC3? I thought he came across well.

I am not one for fawning over royals but neither will I slag them off for being born into it and not having much choice!

Presumably your grandmother is not an expensively educated 27 year old member of the Royal Family whose job involves dealing with people of different ethnicities as a member of the Armed Forces?

Lt - why do you care if people don't like him

It's not particularly about him, although I know and rate him as an excellent soldier and leader of men, so am biased in that respect - I have a great deal of time for ALL good soldiers.

For me it's the fact that he is regularly hung drawn and quartered based on inaccurate, incomplete and biased news reports. People think they know him, his character, his attitude etc based on whatever story has hit the news that day.

I feel the same about anyone in the public eye TBH, that's why you'll never see me on threads slagging off minor (or otherwise) slebs - I don't see the need.

I'll defend Prince Harry as I have a little (just a little mind) of personal knowledge where he is concerned and I feel he doesn't get a fair hearing in most cases.

No. But what is excusable in an elderly person is not excusable in a 27 year old.

Racism is not acceptable from anyone, no matter how old or how young. But it is particularly unacceptable when coming from someone who is the newest adult generation of the royal family, who is educated enough to know better and who knows that his words and actions will be reported on and that people will draw conclusions from them.

Racism is not acceptable from anyone

No it isn't. But then he is not racist.

who knows that his words and actions will be reported on Yes, on an illegally obtained and used recording device, by someone who wasn't actually in that Troop, or supposed to be anywhere near them whilst on that exercise.

Context is all.

I like prince Harry but then again I do have a thing for red heads

The comment about his Asian friend was mutual banter and I believe his friend also had an atrocious nickname for Harry too. I don't think that is blatant racism. Although I am holding back opinion on the 'rag head' comment which is disgusting and racist, if true.

Despite all the speculation on his parentage, he is looking a hell of a lot like Charles now he's older, and I think he is going to look more similar to William as they both age.

'No it isn't. But then he is not racist.'

Oh, ok - people who make racist gestures and racist comments aren't actually racist, my mistake

I absolutely adore Harry.

He is so bright and sensitive and really cuts a dash in a swastika!

A relative of mine has just returned from serving with him in Afghan. He had nothing but good things to say about him, Harry is very much one of the lads and is treated as such and acts as such.

I do hope he will be at one of our family parties in the future, y'know, so I can get to know him!

Maybe your eyes will meet over the vol au vents Shiraz, he'll offer you a sausage roll and a love story will begin.

LtEveDallas You may as well give up. It matters not a jot what the relationship was between his mates and what he was being called by his friends - or that it was mutual banter between mates being thrown about in a private conversation on an exercise somewhere.

It doesn't matter what the others in the group were saying because what they were saying was fine and it's Harry that's racist.

Despite the fact that no one on here has any idea whether the person was offended or not. Of course he was offended. He just couldn't say so for sake of offending an HRH. Never mind the fact that if that were true, most people learn to simply stay away from people that annoy them aged 5 in the playground and this chap had chosen not to do that.

Far too many people getting on their high horse and getting offended on behalf of others. Joke of it is, knowing what I know about the Forces mentality (which is a fair bit), the 'victim' would likely tell everyone on here to 'fuck off and get a grip'.

I say 'likely' because I don't know what happened. And neither does anyone else on here.

squoosh do you think he would join in with 'oopps upside your head' and the locomotion?

I think he would definitely join in! Just be careful if he invites you to play sardines

It's people getting offended on behalf of others that move society forward - otherwise we'd still be laughing at Jim Davidson and his ilk as we did back in the seventies.

'Paki' is offensive, pure and simple. If you don't realise that then there's not much hope for you really.

Shiraz - I would put good money on him joining in with oops upside your head.

I don't get offended on behalf of anyone - why is it that only the person who the comment is directed at should be offended by it?? That attitude annoys me.

I simply don't have much time for people who use racist terminology, whether it's in private or public with friends or whoever else, whoever they are whether a royal or anyone else.

But then there are plenty of people willing to be apologists for the continued use of certain words which are no longer acceptable - there have been many threads about it.

Apologies that this is from The Sun, but it's the only firewall I can get through

"The Pakistani soldier at the centre of the Prince Harry race row came to the Prince's defence today, claiming he is not racist.

Platoon member Ahmed Raza Khan reportedly told Harry to 'forget about it' when the Prince phoned to apologise.
Harry was caught on film three years ago referring to Khan as 'our little Paki friend'.
But Khan told The Sun today the Prince was his friend and that he had no hard feelings towards him in the wake of the incident.
He said: 'The Prince called me by a nickname which is usually very insulting but I know he didn't mean it that way,' the newspaper reported.
'We were close friends when we were training and I know he is not a racist"

So the chap that was insulted doesn't think that Prince Harry is racist, but other people who don't know him do? Oh, OK.

(I do find it interesting that Prince Harry chose not to defend himself in this case, at the very least by telling the press what his own nickname was, and just chose to apologise and let the world think the worst of him rather than his friend)

I think the friend's reaction is irrelevant really. If you use a racist word then thats says something about who you are.

It is not only blatent, hostile racism that makes someone a racist. If you cannot understand that certain terminology is wrong and keep on using it then you are perpetuating insidious racism which is as damaging and offensive as any other.

The friend was very gracious.

The fact remains, the words were used. They were in his head, and he used them

Look. I bet nobody on here would even think of using the word Paki. Why would you excuse anyone else who does?