...to still be sooooo angry at the UNFAIR way the Government has decided who does and doesn't get Child Benefit!

[candyandyoga]

I know it's done and dusted but I'm so fucking annoyed. How can they get away with their bonkers policy that if two people in a relationship earn just under the threshold they keep their CB but if one person earns over the threshold they lose it!?!

[ihategeorgeosborne]

Savanna, have already had too many for a school night. I will feel bad tomorrow, but I have to say, I have had a lovely time on here tonight. It feels strange, people feel like friends (or am I too pissed) Haven't got that feeling from MN before now. I feel all loved up [pissed mother emoticon]

[sweetkitty]

Seesensepeople - thank you very much no wine in this house I'm afraid ill mooch over to ihategeorgeosbournes and steal a glass from her

Not all of MN is as well heated as here, I've been here a fair few years and have seen some truly wonderful support.

Getting back to the erm topic, we all knew there would be cuts, we knew done would be difficult but I never thought they would touch CB nevermind what they have done to disabled people whilst giving the wealthy a tax cut, it's disgusting.

I think we all want the cuts to be overall fair.

[seesensepeople]

Oh, am I a bad unmumsnetty influence?

It's good to have virtual friends...

[seesensepeople]

That was to Geoerge

[seesensepeople]

Yes, we knew there would be cuts and having lived through the last Tory govermnment I was worried.

There's still time for more austerity measures.

Problem is, we don't have a credible alternative - I worry about this.

[ShiverMeWhiskers]

YANBU to get so mad about this, I still do not understand how the idiots in the government have pushed through so many totally insane policies. The terrible part of it is how powerless I feel. I have no meaningful method of protest that the government would listen to. I can email, write letters, post here etc etc but it wont do the slightest bit of good, the government don't care, they don't want to hear it. So I get to wait until 2015 to vote for.....who exactly? They are all a bunch of arseholes.
Surely this will all end badly.

[Savannahgirl]

george I think I too would regret one too many tonight! Have to go and be all sensible at work tomorrow!
Night all

[ihategeorgeosborne]

Definitely not a bad influence seesense. I'm relatively new to mumsnet myself. The cuts to CB drew me here. Your welcome to drop in for anytime or a if you prefer!. Come on over kitty. The bottle's not quite empty. It is good to have virtual friends

We don't have a credible alternative. I too worry about this. I mean, after all, how hard can it be to be a credible alternative to what we have

[ssd]

so can I ask the posters who say cb isnt needed with children aged 12 and over as they dont need childcare

hello???

how many of you leave a 12 year old in the school holidays 8am-6pm then?

without the gp's/sil etc etc up the road?

I mean alone?

will wait for an answer but know I wont get one

[Savannahgirl]

george I seem to remember we "met" on the last ranty CB thread. We have pretty much the same circumstances and therefore similar feelings on it all. We must be kindred spirits!

[seesensepeople]

I agree ssd, extra childcare is needed in the hols for older DC.

But CB isn't paid for childcare, it is/was intended to offset a little of the incidental costs of taking responsibility for sensibly raising future tax payers.

[ihategeorgeosborne]

You're right Savannah, I remember meeting you before. We are kindred spirits I'm always on the CB threads. I think I've been here all day on and off, apart from the couple of hours we went for a family walk this afternoon. Dh says it's not healthy to be on the computer this much!

[Savannahgirl]

I know - I'm always grumbling at my DC's for having their eyes glued to one screen or another, but when it comes to MN I 'm no better! Very hypocritical of me

[ihategeorgeosborne]

Note to self, must not switch on the computer tomorrow. Instead I must clean the really minging bathroom and hoover upstairs. {Apologies for completely going off topic emoticon}. I must really think about heading up the wooden steps for Bedfordshire.

[Savannahgirl]

Me too. Goodnight.

[ihategeorgeosborne]

Night!

[ShellyBoobs]

many seriously ill patients have died because they've had their benefits cuts.

Bullshit.

[crashdoll]

morethan I maintain it is possible for any family to live on min wage with or without top ups. Its down to the choices you make.

Sorry but I find this very ignorant. Families where there are children with chronic illnesses, special needs tend to financially struggle a lot. Also, many parents are unwell themselves, with mental illness striking in 1 in 4, it's not that statistically low a chance.

[dreamingofsun]

crashdoll - i think it varies a lot on where you live. My BIL lives in a very cheap area on minimum wage and still manages to run a car and live in 3 bed owner occupied house. you would have absolutely no chance to get anywhere near his standard of living here in the south

[morethanpotatoprints]

dreamingofsun.

I think you are near the mark there, we chose to move to where work was, lived on friends floors, saved for deposit, got a crappy house. We then put all dhs min wage into doing up house and lived off the local farmers and a lot of bartering. I was not a country girl but soon got used to it, we were a bit like The Good Life when we started off. We did this a few times with crappy houses doing them up and making a bit each time.
Some people see this as good luck but it was bloody hard work and good management. Anybody could do it and crashdoll I have lived with Mental illness since age 21