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So burlesque

101 replies

Worriedmumofan8yearoldgirl · 14/04/2013 22:43

Aibu to think its an art form?

(Just watching itv it's a good documentary!)

OP posts:
seeker · 15/04/2013 15:15

Stripping with A levels.

FreudiansSlipper · 15/04/2013 15:55

Dita is great

Those who think it is just stripping have you seen an actual show much more to it than that

seeker · 15/04/2013 16:07

As is said -it's got A levels. But if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck............

Lj8893 · 15/04/2013 16:10

Not all burlesque actually contains stripping though......or the 40s/50s era!
The stereotypical burlesque movement that is so popular at the moment does, shame that many people here can't see beyond that.

FreudiansSlipper · 15/04/2013 16:22

Seeker have you ever been to see a real burlesque show

It's a piss take much of it, glamorous, erotic and funny just becuase it is sexual does not mean it is exploitative. Strippers can be wonderfully artistic too and appreciated by both men and women

seeker · 15/04/2013 16:36

Year, sure. Incredibly empowering and feminist, wearing a corset and fishnets.......

FreudiansSlipper · 15/04/2013 16:47

I never said it was empowering but it is a performance an act the audience get enjoyment with a lot of homour from not an act people just get sexually aroused from

TheRealFellatio · 15/04/2013 17:23

I don't specifically remember any stripping in the one I saw - they were all pretty scantily clad to start with. I don't think anyone ended up naked.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 15/04/2013 17:29

Just curious ... how does something being a 'piss take' suddenly make it exempt from normal responses? Confused

Surely if it's a parody, it'd have to be parodying something? What exactly is burlesque parodying?

AnyFucker · 15/04/2013 17:38

I don't consider Dita Von Teese to be "classy" in the slightest

She gives good lipstick though, I'll grant her that...

FreudiansSlipper · 15/04/2013 17:40

attractive female dancing in an erotic way wearing highly suggestive clothing suddenly switching to being comical in her act, using props to be overly sexual in a ridiculous manner that it is amusing

It is about entertaining and some of the acts are sexual and funny, does erotica have to be serious is it sometimes so silly that it is amusing

Lj8893 · 15/04/2013 17:47

Seeker that is exactly the stereotype I was talking about! Burlesque isn't all corsets and fishnets, and many professional burlesque performers have never worn such items!

Grrrbloodyuni · 18/04/2013 22:53

Do not click link if easily offended!

andubelievedthat · 18/04/2013 23:58

And , not that i care (stifles laff!) we all do know what lippy is supposed to mimic/represent ? and why u think your DP fancied you ? love accross a crowded pub/at 1st sight? could not live one more second without your massive brain ?really ?

Grrrbloodyuni · 19/04/2013 00:00

And , not that i care (stifles laff!) we all do know what lippy is supposed to mimic/represent ? and why u think your DP fancied you ? love accross a crowded pub/at 1st sight? could not live one more second without your massive brain ?really ?

Sober up?

andubelievedthat · 19/04/2013 00:45

No, better than that, luv ! join the "Sisterhood " and by the way , just out of could not give a fuck >what are YOU drinking?

Grrrbloodyuni · 19/04/2013 00:52

No, better than that, luv ! join the "Sisterhood " and by the way , just out of could not give a fuck >what are YOU drinking?

Ah, I see.........

StuntGirl · 19/04/2013 00:56

Stripping isn't an art form.

sconeswithjam · 19/04/2013 01:52

Depends on the burlesque.

The burlesque artistes who perform with Time for Tease, for example, are exactly that.

DP and I saw the show at Bestival with my DM and a four-month-old DD and if the stereotypes had applied it would've been a dreadfully uncomfortable experience. Instead, it was funny and glamorous and yummy (the afternoon tea, although the performers were lovely too).

To an extent I think the answer depends on one's views about nudity and whether one considers the naked/semi-naked body to be necessarily erotic in the most obvious sense, and then involves a personal judgement about whether art can include eroticism.

WindowWall · 24/01/2022 18:14

YANBU, its definitely art

TheMarzipanDildo · 24/01/2022 18:20

@Softlysoftly

I don't mind it but at my dd1s (3) dance show last week at all the kids had danced4 mothers came on in corsets anddid an excruciating burlesque attempt in front of an audience of bored siblings

That I think was not art. ....

How incredibly inappropriate Shock
Hawkins001 · 24/01/2022 18:21

@Lj8893

I wrote my dissertation on this subject! Far too tired to discuss it now but is a really interesting debate :)
Would be nice to read a copy of your dissertation.
aristotlesdeathray · 24/01/2022 18:21

@Lj8893

I wrote my dissertation on this subject! Far too tired to discuss it now but is a really interesting debate :)
Sounds so interesting as a discussion point for a dissertation!

What did you study for that to be the end result though?

Hawkins001 · 24/01/2022 18:23

"A later use of the term, particularly in the United States, refers to performances in a variety show format. These were popular from the 1860s to the 1940s, often in cabarets and clubs, as well as theatres, and featured bawdy comedy and female striptease. Some Hollywood films attempted to recreate the spirit of these performances from the 1930s to the 1960s, or included burlesque-style scenes within dramatic films, such as 1972's Cabaret and 1979's All That Jazz, among others. There has been a resurgence of interest in this format since the 1990s.[6][7]"

That's from Wikipedia

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