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DH, My Birthday and The Stag Night

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Justtheonemore · 11/04/2013 07:57

I'll try and keep this as brief as possible.

It was my birthday at the weekend. My DH is best man at his friends wedding next month and therefore took charge of stag party duties. He organised a day out at the coast leaving early morning on my birthday and coming home the following day in the afternoon. Although he organised it to fall on my birthday, I understood that getting a date so all the grooms friends could attend and I didn't make a fuss at all.

So birthday morning comes around and yet again, no present (he hasn't 'had the money' to buy me one for about 5years). I was kind of expecting it however I suppose my hopes were raised as I thought because he was off for the day he would have made an effort this year. He didnt. He got up, got dressed and left just after 7am....and that was the last I heard from him. He didnt text or call all day. Maybe I should have texted him but I suppose I was expecting him to since it was my birthday. My SILs and some friends came round for a glass of wine that night, most of whom had DPs out on this stag, and they were all (without exception) receiving texts and phonecalls throughout the night.

So it comes down to this really, AIBU to be upset that despite me not making a fuss over his date choice for the day out and lack of present again he didn't think to text or phone to see if I was having a nice day, to check if our 5DC were ok, to wish me a good night (he knew friends were coming round). AIBU to feel really hurt that my friends were all receiving texts and I had to sit there and laugh it off? He thinks I'm overreacting and asking too much of him and "nothing he does will ever be good enough". I feel that's his way of turning around on me, but he does have the gift of making me doubt myself.

That was actually really long, sorry. We just have problems and I feel like the lack of effort sums up why. He doesn't agree, he thinks I expect too much of him.

So AIBU?? Sad

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Sugarice · 11/04/2013 08:35

It's not just the non contact for the day while he was out, is it?

The lack of thought from him is staggering!

Not even a Happy Birthday text on the way there, not a text asking if you and the kids are ok?

You have bigger issues with him, what do you want to happen now?

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Lambzig · 11/04/2013 08:41

I wouldn't expect a call or text during the day. BUT, I would expect my birthday to be acknowledged, a small present, or a nice meal cooked on an alternative night if money is that tight.

It's about consideration and respect.

I am not a card person at all, I don't bother with them, but my DSM recently told me that my DF gets hurt that he has four children and rarely gets a birthday card (he always gets a present)' so have made a note to send one every year now. Regardless of what me or anyone else might expect,i if it matters to you it matters and he should make an effort.

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hamdangle · 11/04/2013 08:46

It costs nothing to bring you breakfast in bed with a kiss and a happy birthday.

Mumsnet really depresses me sometimes. Why do women do so much for so very little in return? Like Anyfucker says, I feel this is only part of bigger problems. OP, what does DH do to make you feel special? Does he usually do anything on your birthday to treat you? Having no money is just not an excuse because there are lots of things that he could do for you that cost nothing.

Sending one text to ask how your day is going on your birthday has got to be the absolute bare minimum a person could do to show they give a shit. You didn't even get that! You shouldn't just be letting this go and sitting waiting patiently for him to notice you and start treating you like the woman he married though; you should be tearing him a new one.

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Lambzig · 11/04/2013 08:46

Sorry, that was a pointless anecdote, brain not in gear this morning.

You are definitely not BU though.

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ediblewoman · 11/04/2013 09:07

He sounds awful. I know we all get flack on MN for the whole 'leave the bastard' thing but really I can't see any benefit (other than financial) of staying. Do you think the model of behaviour he provides is acceptable, do you want your children to end up treating you with contempt too?

Do you think he would agree to counselling? If not that pretty much tells you how much he values your relationship.

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suburbanslacker · 11/04/2013 10:26

YANBU and I am a bit flabbergasted at these people saying its controlling to expect the odd text message. It's your birthday ffs. Even if you don't make a big song and dance about them to not even acknowledge it is insensitive. And the contrast with the care he has put into the stag is very revealing. I would be having serious words.

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Crinkle77 · 11/04/2013 11:11

YANBU. There is no reason why he couldn't have given you a present before he went. If he had no money then the very least he could have done is buy you a card. Why does he not have any money? It's not as though he did not know it was your birthday, you have been together 5 years. He could have easily saved something or done something nice the day before even if it was just something simple

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Guiltypleasures001 · 11/04/2013 11:19

Op I am struck more with the complete lack of underwhelming responce to this birthday of yours from yourself.

I read your post and thought wheres the anger the how dare he do this too me. 5 Kids in to a relationship and this is all you have? seriously is this all you expect, you sound lovely and to be honest I feel very sad for the fact that you might actually think that deep down you dont deserve much more, I'de love you to post a stinging rebuke to my post to prove me wrong.

Your post needs moving in my view to the relationships board, but as Ive seen you might have already been there in the past, perhaps you hav'nt reached your limit yet with him, for your sake I hope you do soon.

oh and no your not BU x

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StuntGirl · 11/04/2013 11:21

Wishing people happy birthday, and geting them cards or presents or otherwise making nice gestures on the day isn't controlling, they're just nice ways of showing you care.

This man can't afford a present but can afford a stag do, which shows quite plainly where his priorities lie. A cup of tea in the morning and a happy birthday would have cost feck all.

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LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 11/04/2013 11:27

Sorry that you're upset, OP. The thing that leaps out from your post to me is that you're most hurt about the texts/calls. The fact that your friends were receiving them from their partners - and you weren't. It's a public affirmation of "I love you, don't forget me" kind of thing and nice to feel that they're thinking of you. The contrast is too sharp. I think women tend to notice this and feel it more keenly.

I don't know the history, haven't searched it, but this seems to be the tip of the iceberg if it's five years of non-acknowledgement. In some ways you might not want to say anything because how is that going to be a salve when you have to harrangue somebody into caring for you - but then again, if you don't, he never will. I don't know how old your children are but did he arrange anything for/with them for your birthday?

You have children together and you have to be good parents to them but you can certainly stop being so considerate of your husband's feelings. Pull back and let him run after you for a change.

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hellsbellsmelons · 11/04/2013 12:10

Wow - I'd go totally apeshit too if my OH didn't even acknowledge my birthday (not that I have OH at the moment)
You really need to talk to him about his total lack of respect for you.
How long have you been together?
Do you acknowledge his birthday?
Do you get him present? I can tell you one thing for sure, if I hadn't got a present for 5 years, he wouldn't be getting anything either.
Stop enabling his behavouir - speak up and get this sorted out.
Good luck and NO - YANBU at all!!!!!

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Justtheonemore · 11/04/2013 13:56

Thank you for your replies. I honestly didnt feel I was being unreasonable but he has a way of making me second guess myself, it's hard to explain.

We've been together almost 13 years, he's always been cold emotionally but over the last few years its gotten to the point where not only does he make no effort but he doesn't even seem to think he has to. When I question it its always "You ask too much" or "You're just trying to drive me away, this is what you want". Why are we still together? Partly financial I suppose, although this shames me, but mainly for the children and because I love him.

I do want to say, I don't usually expect texts constantly when he's out. I suppose it just hurt as there wasn't a "Have a nice day" text or anything. Plus he was staying out overnight and if it was the other way around and he was at home with 5 DC he would expect a phonecall. Plus with my friends phones beeping on the night, I guess it just drove it home. I've actually always been quite low maintenance but now I wonder if somehow by not expecting a lot I've facilitated his behaviour, as its gotten worse and worse.

As for the no gift thing, I always get him a gift on his birthday. Sometimes it's big, sometimes no so big. For the last five years all I've gotten is him being defensive and shouting "You know I have no money". I'm not materialistic, a small token would make me happy, but the thing is he does have some money. This stag do cost upwards of £100 before he'd even set off, hes always had money for a few pints and a bet previous years. What he means is he has money but he'd rather spend it on other things. Just something small and thoughtful. The amount of thought and attention he put into organising the stag, makes me feel pretty worthless if I'm being honest Sad

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sparechange · 11/04/2013 14:01

Well I hope you won't be buying him any more presents, or doing any more nice token gestures.

Seriously, what a grade-A arse

Just out of interest, what does he do for your DCs birthdays? Does he get involved or is it up to you to get the presents and plan the celebrations?

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Justtheonemore · 11/04/2013 14:13

I organise the children's birthdays - presents, parties etc, its all me. In fact he's only ever made it to a couple of the parties. I have a sinking feeling in my stomach tells me you were probably expecting that answer Sad

And no, I can't bring myself to look at him this week never mind do anything for him. He's an arse a lot, but something about Saturday really and truly hurt

That makes me pathetic, I'm sick of feeling low.

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sparechange · 11/04/2013 14:27

Oh god, Just, I thought you were going to say something like 'oh he tells me I'm better at present shopping so it is usually me' but he doesn't even go to their parties? I don't know whether I'm more Sad or Angry

You must realise that your 'still with him for the sake of the children' thing doesn't really stack up if he is as inconsiderate and shitty a father as he is a husband.

You aren't the pathetic one in this, he is. But the ball is well and truly in your court as to whether you let him make you feel low, or do something to make you proud of yourself and make him realise what an utter fuckwit he is being

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MrsTerryPratchett · 11/04/2013 14:34

So sorry Justtheonemore. I think you are right to feel hurt. He has the money, the time, the thought and the energy, as evidenced by him doing it all for the stag, he just doesn't want to. Neither for you nor the children.

What to do? I don't think you want to LTB and I don't know how to invest less in a relationship and feel good about yourself while living with him. Sorry.

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KnittedC · 11/04/2013 14:40

From the tone of your post it sounds like you have been worn down to the point where you believe your (perfectly reasonable) expectations are over the top. They are not. Plenty of people aren't bothered about birthdays etc but if you would like yours to be acknowledged by the man who is supposed to love and cherish you, that's not asking too much. Not only is he unkind to completely ignore your birthday, but the fact you are questioning whether your expectations are too high indicates a much deeper problem. He sounds emotionally abusive. YADNBU.

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badtasteyoni · 11/04/2013 14:43

OP without knowing any of your back story or other threads that have been mentioned, from your post your H sounds like a selfish prick.

Not being able to afford a present is bollocks IMO. He can afford stag dos? He can afford a few pints on a night out and anything else he wants. A present doesn't have to cost much - I'm guessing you would have been over the moon to receive anything, even if it had only cost a few quid - just because it would have shown that he cares Sad.

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BalloonSlayer · 11/04/2013 14:48

I'd have a big problem with the "nothing he does will ever be good enough" lament. Diddums.

Have you asked him how he feels he can say that when for your birthday he did absolutely nothing.

  • no present
  • not even there for the day
  • no happy birthday
  • no catch-up text that even DPs whose birthdays it wasn't got from their OHs.


He did NOTHING for your birthday. How can he then say "nothing he does will ever be good enough"when he did NOTHING????

WHAT is he saying he does is never good enough?
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HumphreyCobbler · 11/04/2013 14:54

Nothing WILL never be good enough. Because that is exactly what you get. Nothing.

Tell him to try SOMETHING and see what happens.

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HumphreyCobbler · 11/04/2013 14:55

should read final post before writing nearly that same thing...Blush

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MrsTerryPratchett · 11/04/2013 14:57

It's worth saying twice. Sad

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AmberLeaf · 11/04/2013 15:16

YAsoooNBU

He sounds worse than thoughtless, he sounds as though he is deliberately making a statement that you are not that important to him.

Horrible horrible man.

You sound so nice and you are really worth more than this.

It is him not you.

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