Sick of having to be Politically Correct over nearly everything

[SickofThisCountry]

Dont want to cause some big debate but is anyone else on here getting sick to the back teeth of having to watch their p's and q's through fear of offending every tom, dick and harry.

Pagwatch - agree totally that there are people everywhere who are of questionable intellect.

i don't actually believe that any parents will pretend their child has a condition when they don't, andro.

Unfortunately I've seen it, 'ADHD' was the cause of ALL bad behaviour without exception (no dx, but the mother told everyone it was ADHD) - the truth was her son had been left to run wild with no attempt at discipline (witnessed many times). When was ultimately assessed there was nothing wrong with him.

Wow.

Ethnic minorities are groups of people about whom one can make statements eg ethnic minorities make up around 5% of the city's population.

People from ethnic minorities are individual people who act.

You meant "people (from ethnic minorities) who used their minority status to gain advantage". It was the person who did it, not the ethnicity.

What Horry said, Simon.

I am sure Sunny can answer for herself but I hope this helps Simon

To call people ethnic minorities suggests that this is what defines them and that's all there is to them, whereas their ethnicity is only one element of their being. Totally nonsensical in any case since, depending on location, they may not be in the minority at all. To say people from ethnic minorities says just that, they are people who are also part of many other sets.

To some this may sound like 'pcgm' but to me it's just a basic courtesy showing respect for people as individuals.

Hope I haven't misrepresented you Sunny

Yes....and what Horry said!

Okay, thanks for clarifying guys :-)

Thanks Lottashaking, that's more articulate than I could manage :)

Here you see an example of a person NOT having a massive foaming fit of insecurity because someone has pointed out that something they said is a bit problematic. HTH others!

^^ This. :)

Andro

The quote you highlighted wasn't mine.

Nevertheless I think taking one example of a parent believing their child had a condition when it subsequently turned out not to be the case, and suggesting that that is evidence that it happens a lot is a bit nonsensical really.

I know many many people with children with SN. I have met lots of people whose children seem to have behaviours indicative of SN but the parents won't accept that that is even a possibility. I have learnt never to suggest to a parent that their child may have difficulties because for the majority of parents the news will be some of the worst of their lives.

I have never yet met a parent determined that their child has SN when they haven't.

Agreed..in fact I feel sorry for the mum in Andro's example because it is possible a diagnosis was missed and everyone then thought it meant her parenting was at fault.

Gosh Mrs DeVere your post has given me a real flash back! I used to mix with a group of right wing fuckers people broadly out of sympathy with Socialism who used to refer to Brent and Haringey as though they were Sodom and Gomorrah. It was a kind of shorthand: someone said B and H and smiled knowingly as though no more need be said and everyone else nodded sagely and muttered 'ah yes Brent and Haringey'

This was in the 80s. I have made new friends since then

I know many people from Brent, a lot of my family and friends in fact, think they might have a different view point to you though.

Sorry if I wasn't clear: I think that part of London is ace!!!

For those of you who cba to read George Carlin's quote (and I'll admit to having skim read) it can be summed up by the following two sentences

What's the world coming to when you can't freely use the n, p, r words?

and

I'm a twat

Thanks K8

And it's a shame because if George Carlin is who I think he is, he's generally NOT a twat!!

Phew, just Googled. I was thinking of JEFF Carlin. No idea who George Carlin is/was.

I'm a twat (but still right about the summary )

The trouble with the George Carlin thing is that he is right about the powers that be's use of weasel words to describe things they don't want us to think about, but wrong about defining people by their physical attributes and so on. He is conflating two completely different things.

It is a stupid piece of writing though, conflating marketing talk (bathroom tissue vs toilet paper) medical terminology/jargon (shell shock vs post-traumatic stress disorder) with the apparent desire to be offensively disablist.

Using 'passengers in need of special assistance' is not using language to hide the truth or euphemistic. It is clear, straightforward and meaningful. There is absolutely no need to call anyone a cripple, and you have to be incredibly stupid not to realise that it is an offensive term (that it's used in some Bibles is utterly irrelevant). Plus of course there is the later bit where it is clearly implied that all the 'cripples' are poor stupid individuals too.

yes and that too seeker. I'm not sure if the bigger problem with writing like that is that it makes the important points he makes (terrorism/freedom fighter, assassination/neutralization) effectively disappear, or if it's more that it makes the unpleasant/stupid/bigoted writing appear somehow more reasonable.

Thanks for the critique Harpy but you're wrong on both counts. Especially the second. At times however my typing is awful. Have a nice day!

Seeker and Nooka yes that's what I thought!

There's a fab bit in Hitchhiker's Guide where a robot says something like "You will be revoked. That's K I L L E D- revoked."