Sick of having to be Politically Correct over nearly everything

[SickofThisCountry]

Dont want to cause some big debate but is anyone else on here getting sick to the back teeth of having to watch their p's and q's through fear of offending every tom, dick and harry.

Pagwatch - wrt to the 'sarcastic' comments about SN and naughtiness (I don't know if you had a reply):

It sometimes appears (rightly or wrongly), that when a child has SN that any and all inappropriate behaviour is excused as being a result of their SN. Now it may be the case that the behaviour is addressed in a different way (which is perfectly reasonable), however it is sometimes the case that in the eyes of the responsible adult a child with SN 'can do no wrong'...which sends the wrong message. I think there are a few people who are so scared of being seen as bigoted or 'anti' that they don't have the confidence to say x/y/z misbehaved - it's a lack of understanding.

Hi OP, see the attacks and name-calling you get on the first page, for even daring to express a non-politically correct opinion. Says it all!!

Ohlori- but she didn't express a non politically correct opinion. She has been asked repeatedly to provide an example of something she wants to say that she can't- and she hasn't. Just lots of vague oh, I get the feelings what I can't"s.

Would you like to suggest something you can't say because of political correctness?

FrogmanThu 04-Apr-13 17:03:58

kungfupanda. So do you not think that illegal immigrants should be dealt with by law of the land, same as anyone else? Don't quite understand what you are trying to say.

I have absolutely no idea what comment of mine this relates to. I don't think I expressed any sort of opinion on how illegal immigrants should be dealt with.

Although I did post once from soft play so I could quite possibly have posted absolutely any old nonsense due to extreme brain -addlement.

Mumsnet appears to be full of rampant left wingers these days. Good night. I'm off to have a nice cup of tea outside next to my beautiful black boy tree.
Onanism.

"Mumsnet appears to be full of rampant left wingers these days"

I am Spartqcus!

Bugger off Seeker I'm Spartacus!

Arf at Custardo

You might be Spartqcus, but I'm Spartacus.

At my first firm we had a very regular client - usually in court at least once a week. Let's call him Bob Spencer.

There was a very surreal incident where I was representing him in court, and he was sitting at the back waiting for his case to be called on.

The case before his came on and when the defendant was asked to identify himself he said "Bob Spencer" - not the name he had been under on the court list.

My client rose to his feet in a very Spartacus-like manner and said "I'M Bob Spencer". A lengthy row ensued as to who was the real Bob Spencer.

Everyone was transfixed.

My youngest boy with SN is being a right little turkey at the moment. Whacking me in the face with his elbows (which he's just been doing) is partly sensory seeking (it's evolved from turning my face around to examine my cheeks, which he does regularly), but it is naughty, too, and we treat it as such.

Cackling, singing loudly and screeching often results on catsbum faces from those around us. That behaviour is not naughty.

DS1 has just run across the room and thrown his fruit tube wrapper on the floor behind the sofa. Definitely naughty. He's on edge because DS2 is being so boisterous. That in itself is not being naughty, but his behaviour does end up difficult as a result.

Yes, it never happens that parents are blamed for their child's behaviour when they actually should be given a diagnosis.

Diagnoses are just so easy to obtain

FanjoForTheMammaries - of course it happens that a dx isn't given when one is needed, but it also happens that a few (hopefully only a few) parents will look for any reason for their child's behaviour bar a lack of basic parenting. Both situations are wrong and the latter makes things even more difficult for the former!

I don't think it's a generational thing at all. I think it's understanding.
Oh, and nobody said that Ian Huntley had his fucking pencil broken at school, or Mick Philpott. Unfortunately it was Maeread who was abused and continued to be so. Oh, and I'm in my mid fifties.

Andro

I appreciate your response but it doesn't actually explain the contradictory statements from ByTheWay1

She said she doesn't equate naughtiness with SN and yet posted along the lines of 'yet children with SN never appear to be naughty.

And fwiw my son I am surrounded by parents of children with SN all of whom spend a huge amount of time trying to address their child's behaviours - whether SN related or simply naughtiness.

I rarely if ever encounter agents dismissing any behaviour because when your child has SN life is difficult enough for them. Why on earth would anyone make it harder by not attempting to check behaviours that are controllable .

I wonder if sometimes what you are describing is simply an on looker who cannot or will not understand tha occasionally behaviour that looks naughty is actually a manifestation of the child's condition.

Like the people who say 'can you stop him shouting' to me.
Frankly if I could stop him shouting I would. It is far more irritating to me who has to hear it far more often than you.

I've tried, but I can't be bothered to wade through the twatty posts.

OP, I suggest you move.

X-posted.
To be honest Andro in my range of difficulties in dealing with the general public, the ignorant views of a few who question my sons behaviour is beyond his control because they know someone who is a bit of a shit parent,aren't that high.
There are thick folk everywhere.

i don't actually believe that any parents will pretend their child has a condition when they don't, andro. That is an urban myth. When you first realise your child has issues it is the worst thing ever and you automatically go into denial for a while, in fact.

Sometimes naughty/repellent = SN, like it or not.

Spare a thought for those of us in the 'general public' who've been left silent with horror over the years by a child we know well, only for the poor little grl to be diagnosed some time later.

Thank GOD we stayed polite throughout - if ever there's an argument for smiling and nodding (not to mention dodging) that's it. Birth defect caused it, since you ask.

Awful - the diagnosis took 4 years. During which time, reasonably enough, the family elders banned her from the house and the mother couldn't get anyone to take any of the children, even for a party.

Everyone should read that post and remember it if they see a child, especially one of over toddler age, kicking off in public.

And hold back the tuts and glares.

I don't agree with the OP but I can kind of see how people come to such views. I actually think it is more the climate that over-zealous political correctness creates that is the problem and this is insidious in its nature. I spent a few years working in the public sector and there is a paranoia among managers about ending up in a tribunal for various forms of discrimination. I also saw two very blatant examples of ethnic minorities playing the system and basically playing on this paranoia. Political correctness, taken to extremes, can be damaging, of that there is no doubt.

Simon, do you mean 'ethnic minorities' or 'people from ethnic minorities'?

Sudaname. That's what I'd call 'reasons not excuses' there is IMO, when concerning childrens behavior, a reason for everything. If you can understand the reason behind the behavior (good and bad) then you stand a better chance at discouraging bad behavior and encouraging the good.

That applies to children in general, of course some children with SNs will display what to most is bad behavior, but may not be doing so wilfully and not much can be done about that...apart from everyone else being less judgy

I also saw two very blatant examples of ethnic minorities playing the system and basically playing on this paranoia. Political correctness, taken to extremes, can be damaging, of that there is no doubt.

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!! I win!!

Sunnywithshowers - is there a difference? Please explain :-)