To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.

Yes, and God help us all.

Well, not all. Just those who haven't worked hard enough to escape illness or disablity, or a bankrupt employer.

maisiejoe Do you have chronic health problems or a disability? Do any of your children? Did your once loving partner ever snap one day and become abusive or an alcohol misuser? These are all (some of the) factors leading to unemployment and poverty.

I don't think you're mistaken, Maisie, I know you're wrong.

BTW the money pot for benefit claimants is not that large to begin with in comparison to the rest of it.
We should make a start by cutting off MPs expenses allowance maybe..

Oh yes and they've just committed to billions for Trident - that would solve all the problems and mean no one's benefits had to be cut.

Glossy - they will start on you in a minute. You are only a lone example, you are wrong, mistaken and such like!

I do have something that is classed as chronic. It hasnt stopped me working and I certainly wont be sharing it on a thread.

maisie oh dear, what have I walked into! These kind of topics will always be heated...I am stepping away!

Is it stupidity?

You are all agreeing with each other and sometimes it is important to get another view point. It might not be your view but it is a view. Swearing,and telling you to get off a thread is all a bit pointless.

Just because I dont agree with you.....

Nothing to do with agreement or disagreement you are derailing a thread intentionally when it would be more appropriate to start your own that is called goading, its rude pointless and unfair on the posters who wish to contribute towards the thread and respond to the ops request.

So, I am tbh. Let them all agree with themselves....

"Of course I didnt miss the companies making redundancies. I was in one of them!"

So you were made redundant but have never been unemployed? So either you jumped straight into another job, which is damn lucky, of you were unemployed.

I wasn't asking for your personal medical history. I was telling you examples of what may contribute to unemployment. Not all chronic diseases mean you can't work but some can and no one asks for them or has any control over that.

*Or, not of.

Well done Maisie for hanging in there, not that I agree with anything you've said though. FWIW I'll come round and build your extension but I'll just say I'm a woman in my 50s with no building experience but at least I'll be working and that's all that counts isn't it?

I have never been unemployed..... Lucky again it seems....

LOL at YouTheCat
OP YANBU
My money's on the two girls in Costa not existing.

YoutheCat I think I love you

glossy You actually make some goods points. What those people are doing is fraud, it's not that this country is willingly giving money to illegals, they are breaking the law. It doesn't mean that we are too lenient/generous, it means they are criminals who haven't yet been caught. Glad you reported them.

"We should make a start by cutting off MPs expenses allowance maybe."

Now that I like!

myth: working for benefits is slave labour

I'm laughing my head of at the 2 girls in Costa story.

Myth, workfare leads to employment.

YoutheCat. How rude of you. How do you know what my chronic illness is? I have never on this thread called anyone stupid yet because someone disagrees with you that is your response.....

maisie You clearly have no kn
owledge of social policy and the factors that contribute to poverty and unemployment. Your ignorance is making you look very silly.

Ah, fuck.

I forgot that my belief some people deserve benefits and a decent standard of living is totally undermined by the one contrary example. After all, in a population of over 60 million, it is only natural that two or three cases should give the government fine and sound reasons to stigmatize the tens of thousands who're out of work through no fault of their own.

Forgive me, rich folks, I'll go back to grubbing for worms and eating my widescreen TV.