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To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

491 replies

MarmaladeTwatkins · 02/04/2013 15:33

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

  1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.
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YouTheCat · 02/04/2013 19:47

How about a little empathy and compassion for people who are much less fortunate (usually through no fault of their own)?

Some people's attitudes make me utterly despair.

FasterStronger · 02/04/2013 19:48

saskia - you are talking about immigrants like they are 'all the same'

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 02/04/2013 19:48

maisie Those are families with no one on employment, they aren't families in which multiple generations have never worked.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 02/04/2013 19:51

"However they dont get a large amount of applicants for roles so what they have done is offer child friendly, term time working hours which has attracted SAHM's looking for work. Of course its not brilliantly paid but it is a role and that 20% discount off food shopping is very attractive to some."

Honestly, Maisie, where IS this Little England utopia that you live in? The more you tell me about the locale in which you live, the more I think you're chatting bollocks, mate.

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ZebraOwl · 02/04/2013 19:51

nomorefreemoney

The Taxicard service does not provide free taxis.

A very small minority of people can get a set number of reduced Taxi Fares via a not-terribly-reliable service. Even if you are allowed to double-swipe, longer journeys/those taken at busy times as fares are determined by the meter are still very expensive.

morethanpotatoprints · 02/04/2013 19:51

Nomore

Well if you are working, its a good job you don't have a say in it or they would starve wouldn't they.

IneedAsockamnesty · 02/04/2013 19:51

Well said skinny just a shame you posted the myths rather than the facts

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 02/04/2013 19:51

*FasterStronger No, I'm not. You know I'm not. Stop trying to pretend otherwise.

PeneloPeePitstop · 02/04/2013 19:51

bigoted fuckers alert

Nomorefreemoney · 02/04/2013 19:52

YouTheCatif you have additional children whilest knowing you are drawing welafre and have the check to ask the taxpayer to fund this lifestyle choice is very worng in my view

Do what you like but dont ask others to pay and of you do ask others to support your family dont get shitty when and if they want to give less they should count themslefs lucky they get anything at all

And if any one should be blinking protesting it should be the hard working familes who support these people

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Viviennemary · 02/04/2013 19:54

I'd like to know what families are entitled to on benefit. How much money. This seems to be shrouded in myth.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 02/04/2013 19:54

"YouTheCatif you have additional children whilest knowing you are drawing welafre and have the check to ask the taxpayer to fund this lifestyle choice is very worng in my view

Do what you like but dont ask others to pay and of you do ask others to support your family dont get shitty when and if they want to give less they should count themslefs lucky they get anything at all

And if any one should be blinking protesting it should be the hard working familes who support these people"

Well I never knew Littlejohn had a Mumsnet account but this reads exactly like him. You just never know who's lurking...

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Nomorefreemoney · 02/04/2013 19:55

morethanpotatoprints everyone has a choice about how many chikdren they can afford to have

I have two children thats what i can afford if i have more me and oh will have to deal we cant go cap in hand to his employer

It seems that people who are not working seem to want to be exempt from making hard choices that working people have to

WhoWhatWhereWhen · 02/04/2013 19:55

Job seekers allowance payments are crippling the country, err JSA accounts for 2.5% of welfare budget, pensions 41%

YouTheCat · 02/04/2013 19:55

I haven't had additional children and have no idea where you have got that from? Confused

I had twins - wasn't an awful lot I could do about there being 2 of them at the same time.

I am a hard working person. I have a job (albeit a crap part time one) and my dp works full time.

YouTheCat · 02/04/2013 19:56

Nomorefreemoney is talking out of their bottom.

Nomorefreemoney · 02/04/2013 19:56

Not you personally YOU CAT those who are not working

PeneloPeePitstop · 02/04/2013 19:56

Bum hoooooooles

morethanpotatoprints · 02/04/2013 19:57

Nomore

You have no say in who gets money and I have not heard anybody ask others to pay for it. i don't think they care where it comes from tbh.
I don't understand where this attitude of we don't want to pay comes from. Like anybody is going to ask you what you want to contribute to.
Think yourself very lucky for what you have and try a bit of compassion for those worse off than you.

FasterStronger · 02/04/2013 19:58

lefties always swear the most.

SaskiaRembrandtVampireHunter · 02/04/2013 19:58

Nomorefreemoney Would those be the hard working families who have to claim benefits because their wages are so low?

YouTheCat · 02/04/2013 19:58

But I find your view abhorrent. What should happen to those people who cannot support themselves through illness/circumstances? Why should they have to rely on food banks? Why should they have to go on workfare instead of being offered the job at a living wage?

It is all so wrong.

PeneloPeePitstop · 02/04/2013 19:59

One trick ponies

Nomorefreemoney · 02/04/2013 20:00

morethanpotatoprints thats the problem those who have children whilest on welfare or wont look for work dont give a shit that someone has to work so they dont have to