To think its completely outrageous for the govt to not include internet access as a necessity on the voucher programme when

[MadameDefarge]

they are now demanding all benefit applications and correspondence has to be online? I think it is disgusting. Its pushing already marginalised and often vulnerable people beyond the edge. In our Borough over 20% of folk do not have internet access. These people are generally the poor, the foreign, those with MH issues. Is this just another step to ensure the poorest most vulnerable members of society have no voice or access to services?

MadameDefarge Thu 28-Mar-13 14:44:20
or with poor english skills?

What do people with poor Spanish skills do in Spain, or those with poor French skills in France?

Basically if they come here they learn the language if they want to access tax payers money.

• am actually pretty proud that I provided employment for 12 people for two years during a recession! go me!

I see birds thank you.

Yes you would. And yes I would. Is that the answer you wanted? I think it was, so I may as well say it.

cats Chilling....oooh. No. I just got myself out of shit and got on with it. It can be done.

I had poor french language skills when - lived in France. And worked there too. the bureaucracy was beyond me. Its above language even. Its cultural norms that baffle to the uninitiated.

I did ask what suggestions anybody had and to date nobody has come up with any.

I'd love to know who these people on benefits are (apart from some pensioners) who are getting a free tv license and bus fares.

Some utter bilge posted on this thread, posted by people who live in a bubble with no empathy whatsoever.

there will always be a tiny tiny proportion of society that abuses. for the vast majority it does not apply. we are in danger our losing sight of the values of a civilised society if we demonise the very low waged for doing the jobs we wouldnt touch with a bargepole. very simple progression. you work. you dont earn enough to survive. you seek govt assistance. to survive to work. but why is the govt subsidising the low saleries emploers offer? oh dont worry about that. lets just make the poorly paid suffer a leetle bit more by stigmatising them.

"HillBilly" people do spiral into poverty very quickly and the main reason that I come across (in my paid and voluntary work) is disability. I do budgeting with people and benefit checks and often, people have been denied benefits/insurance payouts when they were entitled. Don't even start me on the sanctioning process by the JC, it is a mess to sort out for us (as welfare advisors), you would have little hope if you tried to do it on your own, with a lower level of eduction\intelligence, whilst grieving or suffering from MH issues.

Some people on this thread are so clueless that it would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

Twobras The fact that you admit you'd get a thrill out of judging the deserving/undeserving etc., speaks volumes. And do you think it would be 'character-building' for those who had to appear before you?

YoutheCat I'd love to know who these people on benefits are (apart from some pensioners) who are getting a free tv license and bus fares.

Quite. Still, you can't beat a good old prejudice, eh?

Is that the answer you wanted? I think it was, so I may as well say it. You must have misses the last sentence in my post. Don't twist things, it's not good debating form.

Does Twobras work for ATOS?

So NOBODY who is complaining has come up with a solution. Not one person. Just a lot of whining.

I don't know what ATOS is.

YouTheCat

If I was a heartless bitch, I'd ask TwoBras to come on here so we can all laugh when her glass house crashes down around her.

But I'm not, so I won't.

Lucky you.

American Theatre Organ Society. Eh, no.

The solution is simple. Don't make benefits applications and job applications dependent on applying online.

Why would you think I have a glass house? We live on AU$780 per week at the moment. Only one salary. Not exactly what many of you may be imagining.

I've missed the question, "Two", probably because I am on my phone, What was it?

I've missed the question, "Two", probably because I am on my phone, What was it?