to be worried about Universal Credit

[idiuntno57]

I am in the lucky position of not needing to claim this but I am so worried about its implementation.

Its coming in in the Autumn and is going to be an online only, monthly, postdated payment. It will be paid to one adult in the family unit.

All well and did if you are god at managing your money, internet literate and in a stable relationship. But in the real world....

How are the most vulnerable in society going to have a chance with this?

Already the council tax changes are coming in and as far as I understand people are confused and shell shocked by it. UC is much bigger and no one is prepared.

Re Stormybird

I did the exact same, decided I couldn't afford a child but decided to have one anyway.

The reactions to Stormybird are vile. She didn't have a child so she could access benefits, she accessed benefits so she could have a child. Important difference.

Or are only the well off allowed to breed?

It's you that should be worried between now and 2015, Annabel darling

Jobs that none of the people we are discussing can get,Annabel.
Therefore, no jobs. Is that clear enough for you?

stars it is people like you who I wholeheartedly admire and support and for whom I would greatly increase all benefits and incentives.
And it is people with your ethic and attitude who get on in life, best of luck, if you have children they should be incredibly proud.

I have no reason to be remotely worried emerald sweetie, or do you think you know me?

So who is getting these jobs, katie, because , I presume, someone is?

I did the exact same, decided I couldn't afford a child but decided to have one anyway.

Which is absolutely your prerogative. As it is the Govts. to tighten their welfare belt and for others to support that decision.

I am glad to hear that the prospect of a Labour government doesn't worry you, Annabel. Rest easy and don't get paranoid, now.

Oh, and UC is on track to be a huge balls-up.

Yes, people switching jobs, people who know someone that works there, overqualified people who are desperate, youngsters who can be paid buttons, or even better, work for free......
Not Josephina no skills, claiming JSA because her kid has turned 5, with no recent work history, experience, references or access to a bloody PC to find the jobs in the first place.

Considering the lack of available childcare for disabled children, I'm not suprised you get screwed over totally once they turn 18.

It's the gaps and cracks in the welfare state vulnerable people are already falling through, and these are getting wider every year.

More incentives for small business start ups and expansions would benefit everyone, from the single parent of a disabled child who would love to work but can't because of lack of childcare right through to the 50+ redundant male executive. It's how Britain has historically clawed it's way out of recession in the past, yet this government continues to fawn to the demands of the greedy few that screwed over the economy in the first place?

We've effectively subsidised socialised huge corporate losses and are casting off societies safety nets in order to do so. Education and health are being privatised by the back door (& SN children are finding it hard to secure school places in those new academies, free schools have no requirement to employ qualified teaching staff etc, etc).

More Katieteatotallerhatesallpoliticalpartieswithgoodcause actually

No, doesn't bother me in the slightest emerald. You don't really believe Ed Millionaireband will actually reverse any tory policies. Or do you? [

Let's find out in 2015, shall we?

Stormy bird I'm not judging your desicion to have your daughter but I really don't understand your statement about there being loads of well paying jobs in 8 years and that you'll get one it's naive at best

Annabel I dont get any benfits we because of the 16 hour rule Yes there are jobs adviristed but so many people applying most dont get plus dont forget companies will adversit a job that they already have a internal person for and just bung it out there because they have it to hence the " no jobs" term which i understand Its bloody hard out there and feel for everyone that is in the sitution

My sister is flapping she has bi polar and just got diasogised with MS and goes in a tail spin when she has to deal with the benfit people

I have phoned up ref jobs to be told the company wants a 16yr.

The royal mail causals a inhouse angency 0hours contract use min wage so for example a lad aged 18 wont get higher rate till he is 21 as royal mail say thats when it changes even though most over 18 yrs get the higher rate. I heard this on friday night every company is cutting down im 40 loads of work exeperince but still cant get a min wage perm job.

Rant over and please exuse spelling fingers cold

Wannabe - you may have misread? Or I typed wrongly, perhaps, severely sleep deprived with a two week old here. I meant there won't be loads of well paying jobs in eight years, so holding out for one seemed nonsensical.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine - thank you for understanding. I wish more people could see the distinction; it'd give me a little more hope for the future.

I know stars, it is really grim.
One of my customers, fab guy, excellent CV, applies for everything going, even part time NMW jobs because he hates claiming, has been on my caseload for a year. Can get nada.
Still, I'm referring him to the Work Programme next week so I'm sure it's only a matter of time before a permanent full time job is magicked up. Not.

It's probably me still sleep deprived at 9 months

Employers seem to be cutting costs too and doing it through not employing certain people. A certain burger place where i used to live seems to be using its zero hour contacts to force older employees out and then they hire new staff despite not giving the older staff hours. The age of new staff? 16/17 ish. Its not right but you can't prove it so it just goes on.

Stormy bird congratulations on your dd its hard enough with a newborn without the shit you've been given

Exactly Sneezing. And when you throw workfare into the mix the employers are laughing ........until it comes back to bite them in the arse later on when no one can afford to buy their product because they are on zero hour contracts/lowwages/workfare.

Capitilism eating itself.