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to be worried about Universal Credit

968 replies

idiuntno57 · 23/03/2013 20:21

I am in the lucky position of not needing to claim this but I am so worried about its implementation.

Its coming in in the Autumn and is going to be an online only, monthly, postdated payment. It will be paid to one adult in the family unit.

All well and did if you are god at managing your money, internet literate and in a stable relationship. But in the real world....

How are the most vulnerable in society going to have a chance with this?

Already the council tax changes are coming in and as far as I understand people are confused and shell shocked by it. UC is much bigger and no one is prepared.

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Wannabestepfordwife · 24/03/2013 14:45

Minouminou the same with me have only donated before but I'm a sahm so I have time with dd is sleeping to ring round and see if they would be interested

AnnabelKarma · 24/03/2013 14:45

And you are angry at the Govt? Oh my word, I do believe I've heard it all now! Grin.

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 14:46

Please tell me where the jobs are round here Annabel?
I mean, I spend all day looking for them on behalf of my customers without finding them so pointers would help. TIA

minouminou · 24/03/2013 14:47

OK, Annabel. I must admit, I grimaced a bit reading her first post, but it's done now and Stormy's going to have to get weaving. Let's move on and hope she manages to get a job soon.

starsandunicorns · 24/03/2013 14:48

Annabel have you read my post ref jobs or the lack of them I know my post is long but it contains lots of info on LACK of jobs

PaleHousewifeOfCumbriaCounty · 24/03/2013 14:48

I hope the working smugs who currently claim tax credits have looked up and read the 'conditionality' paperwork regarding this. Pertinent to a lot of married couples, and stay at home mums with partners on low wage.

HappyMummyOfOne · 24/03/2013 14:48

OMG, people actually belive financially planning for a child is to work out benefits before having one! Yet its the states fault again I suppose.

If we scrapped all child related benefits and just had a tax voucher scheme for childcare the number of children born would drop dramatically. Its little wonder our teen pregnancy rate is so high given you can take thousand and thousand from the pot without ever paying in.

Also love how HB is never included by people claiming it as its for rent, mmm yes working people have to pay that too themselves and dont decuct it from their salary when working out their incomings.

UC has far stricter criteria, given the amount on here alone confessing to having children whilst on benefits or top benefits, not working when able to as the state tops up income etc its long over due. We want children to aim high in life, not copy the cycle and just hold their hand out for money. Breaking the cycle will benefit everyone.

PaleHousewifeOfCumbriaCounty · 24/03/2013 14:48

www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/ucpbn-11-conditionality-threshold.pdf

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trustissues75 · 24/03/2013 14:49

Sorry, Annabel - I completely disagree with you....if Stormy was going for her 3rd/4th child while on benefits I'd be a little more reserved in my support but being on benefits isn't a passport for others to then go ahead an judge someone for getting pregnant with one child.....or should we just go around sterilising those who are on benefits for the greater good?

TheSecondComing · 24/03/2013 14:50

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KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 14:50

Come on Annabel, I have a pen and paper ready....

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 14:52

There is no detail whatsoever.
If there were we would have had an achingly dull e-learning course to complete. Nothing so far.

AnnabelKarma · 24/03/2013 14:53

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PearlyWhites · 24/03/2013 14:55

Starsandunicorns most local authorities pay uniform grants every year

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 14:55

But how do we differentiate between the genuine and the not so genuine Annabel?
Crystal ball?
Yet another thing I am dying to know.

AnnabelKarma · 24/03/2013 14:55

trustissues you cannot extrapolate choosing to get pregnant ( where IS the father stormybird BTW?) on benefits to sterilisation. that is daft. But what IS happening is that by tightening up benefits and changing to UC, some people will now think twice before choosing for the rest of us to pay for their kids.

starsandunicorns · 24/03/2013 14:56

Same here Katie I dont mind doing min wage job dont care if it cleaning loos. But still the interviews dont come only sometimes the rejection email comes saying no overquailfield didnt know you could get a nvq in hoovering

PearlyWhites · 24/03/2013 14:57

Anabelkarma their is no need to be so nasty!!

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StormyBrid · 24/03/2013 14:58

The father's intending to move in and support us as soon as he's able to. Even then, we'll still need some benefits, because NMW is so low and everything else so expensive.

As for entitled, perhaps you're right. I'm of the view that we're all entitled to food, shelter, and so on. I can't quite fathom why that's such an unpopular view these days.

minouminou · 24/03/2013 14:58

It'd help to know how old Stormybird is - if she's 25 (she graduated in 2009, so she may be) then yes it was a bit rash. If she's 35....ehhhh...she took a punt when time wasn't on her side.

KatieScarlett2833 · 24/03/2013 14:58

Here, there are over 250 applicants for a part time min wage in Asda.
Plenty of jobs my fucking arse.

AnnabelKarma · 24/03/2013 14:59

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starsandunicorns · 24/03/2013 15:00

Pearlywhites thankyou must of changed since I was egibaly (sp) must of got the one where it wasnt evety year thats good then Smile