To think pushing a pram while smoking...

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Is just wrong!! I'm probably gonna get flamed but really??!! I see mum/dad pushing their babies with a fag resting on the handle, about level with child's head, all the fag smoke blowing nicely over the baby. And why do I find it even worse when it's a grandparent???

For those that are saying they don't understand why people smoke...there has been some studies showing that people self-medicate their depression (and other disorders) by smoking. So that may explain some smoker's behaviour.

I am not justifying my need to smoke at all....I just know that smoking was the one thing I could do by myself to give me some 'head-space' to think in when I was suffering from depression and psychosis.

YAnbu - judgey pants around my throat here but it looks vile and is immoral. Blow your poison smoke somewhere else! Just had to spend 6 months biting my tongue whilst a chavvy colleague smoked and drank her way through her pregnancy, gave birth to her seriously low-weight baby and now she writes a fucking parenting blog in between lighting up and watching Jezza Kyle. She epitomises a smoking parent for me.

I agree to an extent, but if you feel you need a fag then its better to have it outside where most of the smoke blows away. If there is a young child then that child had to coffee with you for safety so obviously goes in the buggy.

getting annoyed by parents/grandparents/carers texting or chatting on their phones when with their children at the swings? our house overlooks the local park and i see it a lot when i glance out the window. you're at the park, spending time with your kids. put your phone away!

ooooo sorry i've posted this onto an existing thread. sorry OP.

Can I judge then as I don't smoke, don't give my kids Ribena light, live in the country and wash their non organic strawberries?

But seriously, I am worried about the effect the huge amount of passive smoking I was exposed to over the years has had on my health, especially as my family seems predisposed to cancer. Me and my sister joke that we need to make the most of the 22 years or so we have left.

I admit to making the cardinal MN sin of not reading the whole thread. But I have read the first part of it. Please, please, please do not say that this behaviour is 'common'. Unless, of course, you mean 'common' in the sense of 'usual'.

It's not a nice thing to do, granted (and I did post earlier that I abhor the practice). But calling this (or any) behaviour 'common' just makes me want to scream.

Princess - I actually mean it's common as in vulgar.

" getting annoyed by parents/grandparents/carers texting or chatting on their phones when with their children at the swings? our house overlooks the local park and i see it a lot when i glance out the window. you're at the park, spending time with your kids. put your phone away! "

Actually, you'll see me reading or knitting while DS2 does his thing at the playground. I'll be taking a flask of coffee and spending half-an-hour out of the whole day sometimes when he really doesn't need me to join in or keep up with his constant flow of chatter. I keep a weather eye on his shennanigans and relax for a few well deserved minutes.

Perhaps this is the only time that other parents have a quiet 10 minutes to deal with important phone calls? It would certainly be the only time I could be sure of not being interrrupted on the phone.

Common as on vulgar, better use vulgar then otherwise you end up sounding like a snob knob

Me too ruby. I play /chat /listen to my children all day. Going to the park means I might push her on the swings but apart from that she's happy as Larry to run around (in fact don't they get to an age where they'd rather play with other children than mum anyway at the park?)

I will use that time to text or read kindle on phone or maybe even mumsnet! No idea others could be so judgy about that! When pregnant I remember nearly a whole summer I spent near a sand play area, half lying down, with a book, while my older one played right close to me. I'm a very hands on mum overall but with a husband away and constant exhaustion the park zip the place that I could read /text etc as she was getting 99 % of my attention at other times.

There was a thread a few weeks back where someone said how horrible it was to see babies in pushchairs when their parents had headphones on. Apparently it left the baby looking "slumped and glassy".

I think that post might have been the exact moment I realised that someone on MN will judge you for every single thing you do in your life

YANBU. Both myself and dh cringe when we see this it's vile!!!

it makes people look common as muck,and uneducated of the dangers of passive smoking

It always makes me wonder if they smoked during pregnancy major cringe, or if not why did they start again surely the air theory child breaths is more important

Oh and smokers stink!! Their breath makes me feel sick.

Me too ruby. I play /chat /listen to my children all day. Going to the park means I might push her on the swings but apart from that she's happy as Larry to run around (in fact don't they get to an age where they'd rather play with other children than mum anyway at the park?)

I will use that time to text or read kindle on phone or maybe even mumsnet! No idea others could be so judgy about that! When pregnant I remember nearly a whole summer I spent near a sand play area, half lying down, with a book, while my older one played right close to me. I'm a very hands on mum overall but with a husband away and constant exhaustion the park zip the place that I could read /text etc as she was getting 99 % of my attention at other times.

Actually, listening to headphones when you're with your kid is a bit crap. You wouldn't do it if you were walking down the street with your husband or one of your mates, would you?

See, that's what I mean about everyone having different opinions

I'll put them in if I'm walking to the shops. Front-facing pushchair with a baby who doesn't talk yet and who loves watching the world go by. I think she's probably glad of the break from me nattering on! Wouldn't be great if the kids are talking, I agree. That would be the same as putting your headphones in while walking with your oh!

Use headphones if baby asleep,listen to pod casts,news,music

Headphones. - debatable. On your own or baby asleep - well. My OH wears them in the house - drives me crazy as he ends up shutting out me (understandable) and the kids. Just makes it seem like he is not always part of the family - so times just call him the lodger.

yeh i have been a bit judgy ther. sorry mners. didn't mean to be. this is why this forum is great. puts the other point of view across. but. i can't help but see people shut away on phones/technology etc. i am old-fashioned, but not that old really.

I judge this. Totally fucking disgusting.

I so agree with you op. I remember when I was feeling low whilst trying to concieve seeing people smoking and thinking how unfair it was. They were blessed with a child but were exposing the poor child to toxins.

this will be the first post in 18 months here that I've hidden. a lot of you on here are overly dramatic snobbish judgemental cunts. absolutely disgusting. scum? common? Jeremy Kyle watchers? Do you know how ridiculously hysterical and fucking STUPID you sound?

I say this as a non smoker