To think pushing a pram while smoking...

[Damash12]

Is just wrong!! I'm probably gonna get flamed but really??!! I see mum/dad pushing their babies with a fag resting on the handle, about level with child's head, all the fag smoke blowing nicely over the baby. And why do I find it even worse when it's a grandparent???

Totally agree. No excuse for it at all.

People who smoke in the street look awful and common. People who smoke while pushing a pram or buggy look even more awful and common. Revolting.

It is vile although it is a rare sight these days.

Stopping smoking isn't anything like as difficult as people make out. Sometimes I think it's tobacco companies who started this rumour!

I smoked from 11 til about 24. So more than half my life at the time.

I went from smoking lots of spliffs and cigarettes, to a couple a day to none in a week.

The first 3 days were quite ratty and stressful but after that I just started to forget about it.
There were the crunch times when I would find myself saying " right now I would be having a fag so instead I'm going to..."
I distracted myself by doing something with my hands.

Tbf I had motivation, we wanted to try for a baby but I wouldn't stop using birth control until we had not smoked for 3 months.

I honestly don't know how smoking parents cope with the extra added stess of trying to get away from their baby so they can smoke x amount of times per day it would drive me crazy.

I remember about five years ago going into a bakery (not greggs ) there was a couple standing outside, one of them with a baby in a front sling, both smoking. Everyone in the shop was looking at them, slagging them off talking about how disgusting it was to be smoking around the baby.

If you do it, you are being judged.

Multitasking?

For the people who say how hard it is to stop smoking, is it easier to be breathing toxic fumes over your child instead?

I don't think it matters if the smoke is blowing away from the baby (though the people behind you may not appreciate - me being one of them esp if you smoke in a subway - but my point is you'll have all the chemical residue on your fingers and clothes and face, and then you'll be handling your baby, holding her, kissing her etc and nowhere to wash your hands first.

iyswim

I can't help judging on this. Smoking just looks common, smoking round your kids looks even more common. I imagine that folk who smoke outside around their kids probably do it at home and in the car etc. Of course I could be wrong but I can't help making snap judgements on this.

The woman next to me in the post natal ward was popping out for some 'fresh air' every hour or two in the day we'd had our babies

She was very young

she was a lovely mother but it made me feel a bit sad for her baby as she was breastfeeding him at the same time

The MWs all clearly knew it was euphemistic so I wonder if they said owt

I wouldn't do it myself personally, as a smoker. But I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want my children to ever see me smoking, in case they grow up to think its ok. But that aside, the pollution from car fumes is logically far worse than what you would get from smoking a fag outside. Do you never take your baby near busy roads either?

If people are still smoking and have small children I think that they must be either thick or thick skinned. If you are pushing a pram smoking then the baby is very likely to breathe some of it in, you will be transferring toxins from your hands onto the pram, do you stop to wash your hands before getting baby out and what happens if the baby cries? I can't imagine that you ignore the baby so as not to breathe toxins onto them when comforting them?

It's hard work being a smoker, rather than try harder why not give up? Or in the very least try E cigarettes.

If people are still smoking and have small children I think that they must be either thick or thick skinned

Erm, I have small children and still smoke. I am neither thick nor thick skinned. But thanks for your rather unintelligent remarks.

one of the things that puzzles me about smokers is that they light the thing and then just wave it around after one puff. That way they stink out everyone else without any apparent gain.

If you smoke, SMOKE - keep it in your mouth and keep inhaling.

Saw a woman earlier in a car with what looked to be a very young baby, smoking away with all the windows closed :( How on earth did she not think that was a bad idea?!

twatty, does that mean you smoked during pregnancy then? If not, you must be capable of quitting.

In fact, if anything should make you want to give up, it's having kids around, isn't it?

YANBU, hate seeing people smoking around children but dislike smoking in general. Some parents differ though and see nothing wrong with it or know the dangers and do it anyway.

TheChaoGoesMu I meant that the amount of information around (with supporting evidence) today confirming the harmful effects of smoking mean that people haven't the intelligence to understand this information, that smoking is bad for you and your young children or that they developed a thick skin and are in denial about it. Even if you only smoke out of the house, the toxins stay on your skin, you would need to shower, wash hair, change your clothes etc to be 100% sure that you are clean of cigarettes and I am sure that smokers don't do that after every cigarette do they? What happens when baby cries mid cigarette, do you ignore them?

Previous generations didn't have that information, our generation however are swamped with it and therefore I stand by my comments.

Did you smoke in pregnancy?

I smoke. I always try not to smoke when out with my DD but if I really must I find a quiet spot, park DD up and move a few metres away from her.
I hate seeing people smoke whilst pushing a pram, but I dont think its as bad if the pram is forward facing.

I judge away happily when I see this sort of thing. Some parents are just selfish. I little girl in my sons Y3 class has very few friends because according to DS2 'she stink of wee..and cigarettes.' Poor little thing.

Yes I did Pigsmummy.

You anti-smokers rise to the bait every time, don't you? Bet your blood pressures are through the roof!!!

Yanbu. Revolting. Poor babies.