Does the Daily mail want us all to hate England?

[Uppatreecuppatea]

What is their agenda?

It's so negative about England and women and well, ... Just about everything.

But why?

It's negative about everything in the whole world ever,
Just don't read it.

Because they're slightly to the right of Genghis Khan?

They want us to hate all foreigners. Yes and women. But strangely have a deep love for kim kardashian and lyndsey lohan etc..

They write what people want to read.

That's far more disturbing imo...

YANBU. Very anti-English, and I say that as a Scottish/Irish person (though they're not much keen on us, either!) and misogynistic in the extreme. It's a rag.

Very true Worra.

It's now overtaken The Sun as the UK's most read newspaper.

It's read by 20 million people a month and is definitely the most linked to newspaper on MN.

People like feast on negative news - no one reads heart warming stories, people seem to like moral outrage and horror.

I'm old enough to remember when the evening news always rounded off with a cute lamb or kitten story.

So am I

Nowadays it's more likely to round off with a report that cute lambs and kittens were found in vegetarian school dinners...

Horrible rag.

It's just full of immigrant hating, misogynist trash for people who've made money on their houses.

People who've made money on their houses?

I'm not sure I follow?

Nearly everybody on my daily commute reads it mainly 25+ white both sexes. I think its taken advantage of the fact that it is a compact size unlike a broadsheet & its doesnt have a page 3. so people think they are reading a 'respectable paper' on their journey into work. S.E London loves the daily mail!

It's still number two in most read papers.

Most read 'news' website in the world though.

It exists to make money and what they produce makes money. Worrying

It is or was the only newspaper that had a higher circulation amongst Women than men, which given its naked hatred of women is amazing.

In fact middle England is the only thing it doesn't seem to hate...

They seems to hate ""...wreckers of law and order. Communists, Maoists, Trotskyists, neo-Trotskyists, crypto-Trotskyists, union leaders, Communist union leaders, atheists, agnostics, long-haired weirdos, short-haired weirdos, vandals, hooligans, football supporters, namby-pamby probation officers, rapists, papists, papist rapists, foreign surgeons (headshrinkers, who ought to be locked up), Wedgwood Benn, keg bitter, punk rock, glue-sniffers, 'Play For Today', Clive Jenkins, Roy Jenkins, Up Jenkins, up everybody's, Chinese restaurants (why do you think Windsor Castle is ringed with Chinese restaurants?)."

The Daily Mail's business plan seems partly based in making money out of winding people up! It's like a professional, massive internet troll IMO. And very good at it they are too.

They exist to make money, yes. However they don't only make money out of those who agree with them. Their website makes money (via advertising) out of people who disagree with them too; the DM publishes controversial articles which enrage people so much that the readers want to share the link with other like-minded DM-hating friends. Every click counts towards their webstats and allows them to make more money from their advertising. Most advertisers don't care whether you're reading because you love the DM or hate it - it's just a game of numbers to them.

It'a cunning, and seems to be working for the DM, which is massive online. Used to be the Guardian for the UK, but IIRC, the DM has taken the top spot worldwide now. In fact the DM owes much of its success to counting Guardian-types (such as myself) among its readers now! How many times have you seen "Sorry for the DM link, but ..." This is happening all over the internet.

Those Guardian-types might not identify themselves as DM readers if you asked them, but the reality is, if you follow DM links to articles, you are a DM reader, whether you hate them or not!

I used to do it myself till I realised I was playing their game, I don't link to DM articles any more.

Don't feed the troll I say

Say what you like about the Guardian otherwise, they are a bit lentilly, delicatesseny, creative media typey for me, but they do not pick on people a la Jeremy Kyle and make fools of them as the DM does.

HillBilly why is the Guardian negative? Do you want fewer stories about corruption and war and more stories about cuddly puppies and kittens?

I don't think you can get more 'negative' than fanning the flames of hate towards immigrants and single mothers.

DH's sister is still miffed with us because when she was staying, and I was going out for the paper, I asked her which one she would like.
When she said The Daily Mail, DH and I burst out laughing and couldn't stop. We thought she was joking. Se wasn't.

Apparently we insulted her.

HillBilly, you like the Mail but think the Guardian is too negative?

YAnbu - it's a rag. I'd rather read The Sun or Mirror cos at least they know what they are and don't try to pretend to be a quality paper

About the Mail's idiot twin sister the Daily Express, but you could apply this to either rag.

The Daily Mail is like rats. You are never more than 6 feet away from a copy!

(Except when safe at home )

I don't think it wants us to hate England or the UK for that matter, more it wants us to hate anyone who is not what they consider to be the average citizen.

This thing is people love to have a moan and the DM gives people the perfect fuel for it. Furthermore, the DM's warped facts and figures that they reel off so casually give people the justification they seek for their prejudices.