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To feel sad that this could be the beginning of the end for the United Kingdom?

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SamuelWestsMistress · 21/03/2013 19:40

I feel so sad this evening after hearing the news for the date for the referendum. I am really dreading the whole countdown to voting day because I really fear that the SNP will get their way. What would be really sad is if its a close count. I just desperately hope living here won't feel too different.

I love having a British identity despite being born in Scotland and will be so sad and angry if its taken away.

AIBU to be feeling rather worried and actually afraid by the entire thing? I really don't like the SNP. (Don't like the coalition it her, but I think they've managed to push things to come to this!)

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Eve · 21/03/2013 21:22

I think ALex Salmond just wants to be king!

Find it 'interesting'. All but 3 Falkland Islanders determined to remain British ( realise indepence was notnthe question asked) and yet Scotland want to split.

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rhondajean · 21/03/2013 21:23

What about the Cornish/geordie/ scouser identity? Should they all be differ countries too?

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:24

Trading between each however is very productive.

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:26

Would you want to be rhonda? we are talking countries here and i do actually believe that scotland, wales and ireland are countries in their own right.

However, cornwall, liverpool et all are part of england.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:27

The SNP are all about independence. That is their "thing"

They were voted in as a majority government into a parliament specifically set up to avoid majority governments. The Scottish people voted overwhelmingly for the SNP. I think the results may be closer than you may think. I personally do not know anyone eligible to vote whowont be voting yes.

Alex Salmond doesn't matter. If you don't like him, vote him out after independence.

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LindyHemming · 21/03/2013 21:28

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rhondajean · 21/03/2013 21:29

Perhaps you should have that conversation with someone Cornish.

They would have an entirely different view.

Historically England was a collection of countries, which is why I think there isn't a strong national identity and some English get so upset About the Celtic countries having one,

Scotland can be a country in its own right AND part of the uk, just as countries can be part of the eu and still be countries.

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rhondajean · 21/03/2013 21:31

Snp vote was a protest vote against labour. There was no other option, Tory party doesn't exist up here. We got toad features, the uk got the condems. For the same reasons.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:31

It can't really be a country in its own right if we have no say in who governs us, no say in defence, no say in benefits...

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:31

Ok then, i thought it was plain Euphemia. We are and should be stand alone countries, trade as such etc. that's respectful really.

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StatisticallyChallenged · 21/03/2013 21:32

ItsAllGoingToBeFine - I don't know anyone who WILL be voting yes!

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LiveItUp · 21/03/2013 21:32

You see - it's started already. The bickering. The next 18 months are going to be interminable. Couldn't they just do it next week and get it over with. Grin

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:32

or do you think the world should be as one? a wonderful fairy tale that would never work in reality.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:33

Yes the Tory party doesn't exist up here. Yet we are ruled by them...

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StatisticallyChallenged · 21/03/2013 21:33

Might as well LiveItUp, we won't get any more actual facts between now and the vote anyway!

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:34

Are you on Scotland Statistically?

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LindyHemming · 21/03/2013 21:34

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:35

Divisions are healthy and necessary. When things become far too mixed up is where trouble starts. No one knows who the hell they are and identity becomes lost

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rhondajean · 21/03/2013 21:35

I'm going to hold a street party when the no vote comes in.

I'm seriously thinking about volunteering for the better together campaign and putting my time where my mouth is.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:35

There are plenty of facts out there. Please please go out and look. This is too important for you not to research.

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rhondajean · 21/03/2013 21:36

Oooft clipped that's getting close to ukip/BFp rhetoric there.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 21/03/2013 21:37

Rhonda Jean - yes, you should! The biggest threat to both campaigns is apathy. Get out there!

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StatisticallyChallenged · 21/03/2013 21:38

On and In it! I have researched thanks ItsAll - I'm not stupid and actually work in a company that is doing a lot of research about it too. The facts I want are what the separation agreement would look like - oil shares, asset and liability shares etc. Those "facts" don't exist because the negotiations haven't happened and won't until after the vote (assuming a yes)

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sneezecakesmum · 21/03/2013 21:38

If the vote is overwhelminly in favour of staying in the Union I just hope alex salmond would shut up about it. his constant posturing and misinformation wears me out.

Everyone wants the facts about oil, defence, the euro, the EU before decisions are made, not a load of nationalist claptrap.

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ClippedPhoenix · 21/03/2013 21:39

Oh pack it up euphemia. Ive already told you in a basic very warranted way.

So you are saying we are the same? our cultures are different, just because we speak the same language in different accents doesn't mean we aren't different. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that at all. If differences were celebrated half as much as certain people trying to force us to be the same the world would be a better place.

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