To be slightly annoyed by the phase 'work hard and get on'

[LittleTurtle]

on the budget speech.

Apparently in reference to SAHM.

The newspapers were slating PM's use of this phrase all today. That SAHM would be excluded from receiving child care support because they do not want to work hard and get on.

I was mostly surprised that the chancellor used this exact same phrase at the budget speech today. I thought they would just erase it after the papers raised concerns from parents about it.

I just find it insulting that people generally think SAHM don't do anything, but just lounge around at home.

I'm not mad about the phrase either. It also seems strangely old-fashioned and not really applicable to our times anymore...

Re. the SAHM debate - actually my world enlarged when I stayed home with my son! Not all SAHMs find it boring and isolating. I found it wonderful often times, certainly compared to the company of many dreary ex-colleagues! I know the pleasure of bringing up children is often obscured by the sheer hard work involved especially if you do it your own as I did (why grandparents perhaps appear to enjoy it more) but I am often wistful over those early years.

Errr Social by that logic if you choose to have children you should have the means to pay for the childcare ie save beforehand,cut back on holidays etc.

If we're going down the route of stuff those that need support it goes both ways.

"They are not slating SAHMs. They do a valuable job. What is changing is the financial help they get. You want to stay home and look after your own children, you make sure you can afford to"

instead of all these sweeping statements both off the government and posters on here, is there actually any statistical information to point to the majority of sahp's actually getting financial support? I just don't know anyone who does and I have posted this on another thread. Most people I know who are sahp's are either pretty comfortable OR they have made sacrifices in order to do so (no fancy cars/holidays etc) It seems to me it's just another stick to beat women with that hasn't been backed up by any statistical information or factual evidence

Socialclimber If you choose to work hours which do not suit your circumstances then you need to factor in the price of childcare in the same way as you expect SAHPs to have factored in their lack of a wage.

This SAHM gets no financial help outside of CB. Hubby earns a set wage. Set for the past 4 years in fact.

Work hard and ... be made redundant, repeatedly
Work hard and ... find that only fixed-term contracts are on offer so you:
Work hard and ... have to start again at the bottom of the pay pile every time you begin a new contract, which means you:
Work hard and have no chance of ever buying a house, getting a pension, or obtaining any other form of security.

That's been my experience, and I have worked bloody hard - sometimes doing three jobs at once - for the last 20 years, getting a science PhD along the way. Feck off, Cameron, and take your inherited privilege with you.

It's 4 years,not a lifetime and frankly when they start school the bills are a fraction sooo hardly worthy of money going to wealthy families over 60k.

Errr not really the same, since you're contributing to the tax system. Not comparable at all.

This family is just over the thresh hold so losing CB.However 2 income families on the same keep it and families on up to 300k will get help with paying for after school clubs.

Still Samcam needs all the help she can get making those designer hand bags

Kazooblue, I agree with you re the thresholds. Absolutely crazy.

Errrr my family is contributing to the tax system,bloody 40%worth.

Agree OhLori after 20 yrs in a well paid but stressful and unrewarding job I was determined to bring up my children when they finally arrived and have enjoyed every minute (well almost ) Mine are 12 and 10 now and I am considering part time work but I will never work full time again.

Also, my poor old Dad "worked hard" all his life but as a builder he certainly didn't "get on", but not for the want of trying.

I think I work hard but do you know what? I don't particularly want to "get on". I am perfectly happy with the pace and the quality of the life we have.

Being a SAHM isn't a job though, it's looking after your own kids, so why do you need money towards childcare? SAHM aren't paying tax etc working mums pay tax, and contribute to other people's jobs ie childminders, nurseries so of course they need child care costs.
SAHM get help from 3 yrs.
Noone is saying it isn't hard raising children or working and raising children isn't hard but I don't see why SAHM should get the child care help.

and mine, thank you. Contributed for 15 years before I had kids too.

As did I Ankle,worked all my life.

Sticking read the thread.

I'm talking about the individual and you know it.

I did ta

I don't want it and have no problem with others getting it. I just resent the prevailing negative attitude towards anyone not currently contrbuting to Osborne's Tax coffers. I will live my life the way I think best and I will not be bullied into taking a minimum wage job and paying someone else to look after my children.

wont women who earn below the tax threshold be affected as well though?

Spot on Callycat

stickingattwo no staying at home isn't a job but by bringing up my own children I hope I am contributing to society by developing well rounded individuals rather than paying someone else to take over that responsibility whilst I work (I am not having a go at those who work).

Exactly mopswerver

What the actual fuck JenBird?

Well it would be great news if we both earned £49k. Then we could keep our CB and get help with childcare.

Or if we both earned a massive salary - still going to benefit from this.

Seems like Cameron and Osborne are really looking after their own here.

Jenbird, oh you did make me laugh!