Owing / Being Owed Money?

[ValerieJones]

Backstory - one of the Mums from pre-school is getting married tomorrow. Group of us have been invited to the evening reception, so we decided to all chip in for a present - gift and budget all agreed by everyone in advance.

Ange suggested a present, Jen bought it last month.

Ange has now said she'll give Jen the money at the beginning of April (next payday), Jen said "no" and won't let her sign the card in case she doesn't get her money.

Neither on breadline (one smokes, one shops at M&S to illustrate they could cut back if they had to).

Who IBU and should give in to avoid a drunken scrap at the wedding

[ENormaSnob]

Ange is very unreasonable.

[yaimee]

I think Jen!! I also think you'll get 50 ange votes and 50 Jen. Drunken scraps at weddings are entertaining! Just let them get on with it

[HairyHandedTrucker]

ang is

[BeeBopDingALing]

Both. Ange should give her the money but as long as Jen trusts her I also don't see why waiting until the end of the month matters.

[CaptainSweatPants]

Ange should give the money
What a pita

[HollyBerryBush]

Neither a borrower nor a lender be.

if Ange wished to be included in the collection, she should have paid first, not expected someone to sub her.

How much are we talking about?

[claudedebussy]

ange.

the present has been bought. jen is out of pocket NOW,

[CloudsAndTrees]

They are both BU, but mostly Ange. She should have paid before the present was bought.

[claudedebussy]

i also don't like jen's behaviour.

she clearly thinks she's not going to get her money!

[HollyBerryBush]

I would also say, it doesnt matter whether Jen has disposable income or not, She understandably feels aggrieved that Ange is taking the piss out of her and should not be out of pocket by doing someone a favour.

Out of curiosity did Jen decided to put in for Ange without clearing it with her first? That would put a different slant on things.

[Sugarice]

Does Ange have form for not settling up?

I think Jen is being snotty by nit letting Ange sign the card unless she knows something you don't.

[littlepeas]

Ange is unreasonable. Jen is handling it badly.

[ValerieJones]

"How much are we talking about?" - £15.00

"did Jen decided to put in for Ange without clearing it with her first?" - No there was an e-mail that went round the whole group discussing and agreeing what to get (at Ange's instigation) - it was an online order, so someone had to book it which Jen did as no-one else had enough in their account (£150)

"Does Ange have form for not settling up?" - the group has only known each other since pre-school started in September, the first time they all got together socially was at brides house and Ange came empty handed while everyone else brought a bottle as she came straight from work which may be why Jen thinks she might sign the card and then not stump up later on.

Ange has a backup of a bottle of champagne that she can re-gift so as not to go empty handed, but then she wouldn't be paying Jen for the group gift so Jen would be out of pocket anyway.

[theodorakisses]

Sorry haven't really read it but love the scenarios being given names like this. I am thinking that John was UR but that was in my life 12 years ago.

[YesIamYourSisterInLaw]

Which one are you?

[maras2]

Falling out for £15 ? FFS.

[INeverSaidThat]

Ange is BU.

Jenny may or may not be handling it badly.

It is always best to get money upfront.

[Mia4]

Ange is being unreasonable, she should have budgeted for it. Also if Jen's buying, what if everyone else wants to pay on payday? She's down £150, maybe she's even told others the same.

Not allowing her to sign is unfair though and seems cutting off her nose to spite.

[ValerieJones]

Maras2 - "Falling out for £15 ? FFS." - yes I get your point, but £15 is a lot of money to a lot of people - for some it is half their shopping budget for the week. Also we are not close friends, we share a mutual friend.

I'm Jen in this situation - I'm pissed off cos I paid for this in early February, so have been out of pocket for a month already. And payday was just last weekend, but she wants to wait another month with no guarantee of me actually getting the money.

So yes I was being petty about the card. I haven't actually said she can't sign it, but not gone out of my way to make sure she signs it, which others have done when they gave me the money.

[LemonPeculiarJones]

Ange is taking the piss. Don't let her sign the card.

That Ange. I've never liked her.

[LemonPeculiarJones]

[Maggie111]

YANBU

[claudedebussy]

well good luck - i think your gut instincts are right and you're not going to see that money. can you get it back or is it too late now?

[aldiwhore]

I think it wouldn't hurt Jen to accept payment on the next pay day. I'd do it, let Ange sign the card and I'm utterly skint.

Ange should have planned it better, but I've also been caught out by 'quick resolution presents' where I've needed to find money sooner than I expected.

They are both BU.

I loathe chipping in for presents.