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To think my SIL purposefully tried to spoil our wedding day?

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ThreadWorms · 05/03/2013 18:25

A bit of a back story first - my SIL (not technically as this is BIL's girlfriend) and BIL were meant to get married last year and had found a venue they wanted to use but decided to use the money her father had given her for the wedding on a house purchase instead. She then told me that they would probably get married abroad in a couple of years. Fast forward to last year and DH and I decided to finally set the date for our wedding having come into a little bit of money which would enable us to do it. As our budget was low we found a couple of venues with winter offers one being the one that SIL was going to use. I was dubious about upsetting her but after a huge fallout with a close friend over the other venue (one date left and she demanded I let her have it - we haven't spoken since) we decided to go ahead with sil's venue believing that it wouldn't matter since they would never use it anyway. SIL is a difficult person, I have posted about her before and she demonstrates many characteristics of narsassistic personality disorder. She has taken over other key events in our life and I fully expected her to do 'something' on our wedding day but she really excelled my expectations.

Firstly she ate her starter and then disappeared outside for the rest of the evening for the most part. She spend near enough the whole time stood outside with the smokers. I realise that this is her prerogative but she made it obvious that she didn't want to be there.

She heckled my dad all the way through his speech and insulted my DH.

She started arguments with a few of my friends over things that happened over 5 years ago. She accused my best friend and bridesmaid of sending her a nasty message on Facebook which never happened. She was generally very rude and nasty to my friends. She has a tendency to be this way with people anyway but I was shocked by just how openenly nasty she was. My friends did very well not to bite but at one point I really thought it could end up with physical fighting as she just wouldn't stop goading them with vile comments.

She was visibly annoyed and said as much that we had been lucky enough to get a good day weather wise which of course people were commenting on.

She told anyone who would listen that we had 'stolen' her venue. She also kept telling people that she was gutted that her sons had not been asked to he pageboys despite the fact that DH had asked them but stipulated that they would have to pay for the suit hire. They opted not to do this, fair enough.

I generally tried to avoid her anyway as I don't like her very much but at one point she pulled me over to have a 'heart to heart'. It started off very nice with her complimenting my dress and the wedding decoration etc, but then she admitted that she was angry with us for booking that venue. I tried to explain what had happened but she wouldn't hear me out. She said that friends of hers had encouraged her to book the same venue but go bigger and better which she now felt she couldn't do as I'd done such a great job. I told her it wasn't a competition and that I would be happy if she felt she could still have her wedding there if that was what she wanted. I do not subscribe to this belief that friends or family cannot use the same venue.

She ended up asking me if I had a problem with her. On any other occasion I probably would have explained my issues with her but I felt it wasn't the time or the place.

What made me most angry was this though. Many years ago DH had an affair with one of sil's friends. We got through it and I never blamed SIL for her involvement despite the fact that she helped to hide what was going on. I disliked her before this anyway so that was never the issue. Despite the fact that her BIL has also cheated on her she still loves to make out that they have a better relationship than we do. Anyway, I don't know what possessed her but she started saying that we would never see eye to eye due to the past with her friend/ow but going on and on about how great and amazing her friend was. That was it for me and I made my excuses and went back inside to spend time with our guests that were actually happy for us. I mean is it just me or was this totally and utterly inappropriate to bring up Mine and DH's past like this on our wedding day? We have discussed the situation before, there was just no need as far as I could see. Things have moved on anyway, we have has children since the affair, we have got through it. Why drag it back up on what was supposed to be the happiest day of our lives?

So Aibu to think she did this on purpose or should I cut her some slack since it was inevitably going to be difficult for her since she had wanted her wedding there? Or could we have reasonably expected her to keep her feeling to herself just for one day? I've put myself in her position and I think that even if I was angry etc I would have tried to be happy for them and put my own feelings to one side for their big day.

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ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 13:42

Well we can't have spoiled her plans too much as they have rushed out and booked their wedding on DH's birthday at a venue we could not have used (wedding if a close friend held there and he sadly committed suicide last year so we were being sensitive towards her).

She announced it on a stays where I was thanking all our guests. She has asked for my help and for some of our wedding things as they are having the same colour scheme.

None of this bothers me but I think she is trying very hard to get to me. Only she's shot herself in the foot. I won't be helping her out at all after the way she has treated us and attempted to overshadow every event we have ever had.

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ilovecolinfirth · 08/03/2013 13:54

She sounds bonkers!

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 13:57

Ilove - I think bonkers sums her up nicely. I have decided that if she asks why I won't help her to be honest about why. I am usually the type who will help anyone with anything but for the first time in my life I will be saying no. I don't think she deserves my help.

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Katisha · 08/03/2013 14:04

What is she asking for? I can't think of much that's left over after a wedding unless she's wanting your bridesmaids dresses or - eek - your wedding dress?

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:08

She wanted the mr and mrs surname we used for the top table and 'anything else I think she could use'. I made everything myself so I have everything still, centrepieces, bouquets (silk flowers), the lot. It will conveniently match as they are having the same colours. She told me after receiving our invitations that she would like me to make hers. I know in being petty but there's no chance. I would happily have helped her had she not been such a bitch on our wedding day.

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Katisha · 08/03/2013 14:14

Crikey. What a cheek.

Well you can try explaining to her but I'll lay odds she wont inderstand a word you say. Everything is about her, I imagine, so she won't be able to understand that she can't go about saying what she likes to people.

However it would be refreshing to read that someone stands up to people like this, because there is so much peace-keeping for an easy life going on usually.

DontmindifIdo · 08/03/2013 14:17

a breezy "gosh, no I've not got the spare time to help you, but I'm sure it'll all be fabulous." will do. The Mr & Mrs cards, the centrepieces etc, just say no, you're not prepared to lend them out but you are sure whatever she does will be fantastic...

DontmindifIdo · 08/03/2013 14:18

Oh and as it's going ot be DH's birthday, surely his mum can start campaigning for a cake with candles and everyone singing happy birthday to him at the speeches?

alwayslateforwork · 08/03/2013 14:18

Aye, go burn that olive branch.

You could be the bigger person and attempt to start an actual relationship with the woman, but it's all choices.

Just make sure you are up front about your inability to help (don't be childish and ignore her until she asks again - she's already asked you once, so now you have to tell her so that she can make other arrangements in good time) and quiet and reasonable on the day itself. To turn yourself into a mirror image of her will do you no favours.

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:19

No, you're probably right katisha. I have had enough of being nice to her and biting my tongue to keep family peace but she doesn't show me the same courtesy. I won't say anything unless she specifically asks but I've absolutely had enough and don't feel like I have have anything to lose. If she can't see what she has done wrong then I will be cutting her out of my life for good.

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diddl · 08/03/2013 14:19

I'd probably just say that you're too busy.

I think that anything else would be lost on her!!

How convenient-having the same colours so that she can try & scrounge as much as possible from someone she clearly erm dislikes??

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:21

Always, I have tried and tried with her but she is out and out nasty to me. The wedding was the merest tip of a huge iceberg. I have already told her no and she tried to guilt trip me. If she asks again I will say no. If she asks why then I will tell her. I'm not trying to ruin her day by leaving her without enough time to get things done, I will be honest.

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ladymariner · 08/03/2013 14:22

I don't think it's burning the olive branch, I think it's about keeping as much distance between you and this toxic woman as possible. Agree with what dontmindifido says, a breezy no with a smile should do it. And then ignore the tantrumming......

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:24

Diddl, my thoughts exactly. When they were planning their wedding previously I helped her then and it was a very different colour scheme but they never went ahead. She's made a big thing of the fact that her 'rich daddy' is paying for it all so it's not like she desperately needs my help.

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ladymariner · 08/03/2013 14:26

You don't have to justify yourself.....you are totally within your rights to say no, I can't believe the cheek of the woman to ask you.

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:26

That's exactly it lady. I cannot think of anything worse than having weekly meetings with her bridezilla arse. And as I have already mentioned, I have helped her once before so I know exactly what she will be like.

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ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:29

It did mildly irritate me that while people are still congratulating us she is asking for all my things. I worked hard on what was very much a DIY wedding having a low budget and I don't want to let it all go just yet. I know her well enough though to know that she just wants to divert all the attention away from us and put the focus into them. Not annoyed enough to make a big deal out of it though.

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alwayslateforwork · 08/03/2013 14:30

I dunno though. Sometimes you don't 'need' help, but it's nice to involve people in family occasions. Be careful you don't sound like you 'need' to be needed... Otherwise that kinda puts you in the same 'all about me' category.

If you have no intention of helping out, and this was yonks ago and your second thread on the same subject, why on earth are you wasting your life posting about it?

Just ignore the brou ha ha and get on with your ordinary plans. You sound as though you are dwelling on this far too much, tbh. Don't let it become a part of your life - it's one day and you can pop along and have a shandy and then go home.

Have we got a bridesmaid and pageboy thread re your children to look forward to? That would be lovely for them.

ivanapoo · 08/03/2013 14:37

Give her the surname thingy and then go around the wedding telling everyone she stole your theme and decorations!

OnTheBottomWithAWomansWeekly · 08/03/2013 14:38

Could you just hand over any of your wedding accoutrements that don't have a sentimental value attached, and tell her that those are her wedding present?

Makes you look good and saves you money at the same time - if she complains about that she'll just look more bonkers!

Snoopingforsoup · 08/03/2013 14:42

YANBU. I think you need to make sure you show her the same lack of respect on her wedding day.
She sounds horrible. I'm sure people realise what a cow she is, it won't just be you.
Take comfort from the fact she's clearly a miserable cow underneath that nasty veneer.
I hope you can forget her antics and remember the really lovely bits of your lovely day. I'm glad you used the venue she wanted. It's the least you could have done to such a lovely woman!

TheCatInTheHairnet · 08/03/2013 14:43

Sheesh OP, you've fallen out with a lot of people! Is there any teeny tiny chance that maybe there is a common theme here?! Grin

ThreadWorms · 08/03/2013 14:48

No, my initial thread was because she booked her dc's christening so that it clashed with my dc's birthday party (ours was booked first and she checked with the play gym to ensure they clashed - like I say, huge iceberg). I very much doubt that she will ask out dc's to be involved this time. Long story but she will ask another family member who has fallen out with us all. Thus us all just a prediction but I know her very well and she loves a bit of drama so anything to stir up a few people and arguments.

I realise I must sound very petty by not wanting to let her have things or help but I honestly don't think she would appreciate it or deserves it. It's all just a way to get what she wants.

So many people have encouraged me to set up a business doing wedding things including invites and I am seriously considering it. This is where the whole thing came about whereby she presumed I would help her out. I don't for a second think its about me, I know I wouldn't get any credit anyway.

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FakePlasticLobsters · 08/03/2013 14:48

Just tell her no.

They are your keepsakes for your wedding and you want to keep them in a special memory box or something and don't want to take the risk of them being spoilt. And that you are too busy to help her plan the rest of the wedding.

Bizarre that they have booked the wedding on your DH's birthday. Make sure you make lots of comments about how they have saved you the cost of booking a party and wonder aloud if the venue would mind if you took a birthday cake along so the staff could bring it out at the reception with the candles lit so everyone can sing happy birthday to him.

Springdiva · 08/03/2013 14:51

I've only been to a couple of weddings in the last couple of years (ok I am an old grumpy fart) but really no one gave a monkey's toss about the name thingys and table tat decorations and all that bollocks which take too much time and money anyway imo We were all too busy chatting and drinking and having a good time, which is what the B&G want surely?