To think if you sit near an Under 5s area, it's going to be noisy!

[waltermittymissus]

www.mummypages.ie/shopping-centre-bans-screaming-children

So this shopping centre's management have a notice up saying screaming children are not allowed in?

I don't know about any of you, but I've certainly never planned to have my toddlers start screaming while I'm shopping!

It seems this stems from complaints by staff and shoppers sitting near the under 5s play area.

Am I missing something or is this completely insane?

Slightly irrelevant, but it bugs me and I've never had a platform to moan abt it before

My friend and I often go for lunch with her DTwins and my DS, there's a pub we walk to that has a family area which we use....now 3 boys under 18m aren't the quietest and tidiest eaters (but defo no screaming and we always clean up), so why oh why would you choose to sit in this section if you are out for a quiet cup of tea with your friend...the pub is massive, please sit somewhere else or just enjoy the hubbub of families out for lunch...don't tut and stare and comment loudly!

Shellschock

That is much different to misbehaving children and parents that don't give a shit about others.

A "family area" in a pub or restaurant means just that.. an area for families that children are welcome to SIT in .. it does not mean an area where you can let your children run wild.

It may seem hard to believe, but the world does not revolve solely around children.. and mean that they should be allowed to freely express themselves no matter how much disturbance they cause to anyone around them.

This is the type of comment I don't understand. I see nothing in my posts to imply that I think that way. So the smart arse comments are confusing!

If I didn't want to listen to children screaming, I wouldn't sit near the children's area.

And the sign says screaming children aren't allowed in the centre not "please ensure your children don't screech and run around the food court."

It was not a comment aimed specifically at you personally, but surely regarding the sign it is clear what is meant without it needing to be quite so literal.

But if the food court is near the childrens area then your basically saying people have 2 choices - put up with the noise or don't go into the food court.

No I don't think it is.

I would be a bit if I'd turned up to do the shopping with my noisy two year old and seen a sign this said screaming children weren't allowed in the centre!

I would think; fuck maybe they knew I was bringing him today, best go elsewhere!

seems stupid to me, what exactly do they do if your child starts screaming in the centre? its not always preventable my DS does it every time he cant have something or go somewhere he wants

I agree, I did say it was irrelevant....our DSs are very much still high chair bound so no running crazy, just bugs me that you choose to sit somewhere that you know will annoy you, makes no sense to me

Can you not teach your two year old that it is not acceptable behaviour to be excessively noisy then?

I agree with Squeaky - bit of a storm in a tea cup isn't it - it's very clear what they meant - screaming children aren't fun to sit by!

Any food court I've ever seen is quite big so I would pick a seat away from the play area. If there were none available, I would expect a certain amount of noise.

Clearly I'm in the minority. I think this "children should be seen and not heard" attitude is old fashioned bullshit. I think children need to learn manners and respect.

I certainly don't think they should play in silence because adults have some god given right to a quiet cup of tea beside a play area!

I cannot abide screaming children, if my dd ever does this I make sure she stops immediately. Some parents just let them run around screaming so I think the sign is a good thing.

I'm noi sure that you can link to an article and ignore the article and just complain about the sign.

the article clearly says
"customers had complained about children ?running amok? and ?screaming? in the food court,"

I think children need to learn manners and respect.

and which of these does screaming fall into?

Screaming is a lot different to children just being their normal noisy selves.

squeaky I am teaching him the very good manners I've taught the other two.

Unfortunately, being two, he does occasionally slip up. Because he's two.

my children have other settings not just 'silent' and 'screaming' :)

Don't sit near the childrens play area if you don't want to hear children making a noise. I get you,Walter

There's a difference too between a child screaming as they are unhappy, and running abt screaming...I presume the sign is talking abt the latter, and as such is totally reasonable

I explained, a lot, that my intention was to say it's a stupid sign. Not that children should be allowed to do whatever they want.

Clearly this has been lost in translation. Meh.

Also, it's next to the play ground, why can't the children just run and scream in there instead?

Don't sit near the childrens play area if you don't want to hear children making a noise.

That's pretty much it!

And also, I'd have no problem if there was a sign at the food court saying "please don't allow your children to run around the tables screaming".

I just thought the image of a load of toddlers being banned from an entire centre because they might scream was a bit mad!

No reasonable person would complain if a screaming child was seen to be being dealt with by the person responsible for them. Everyone knows that children can be noisy and get over excited. It is the parents who have selective deafness, a sense of entitlement and a blatant disregard for anyone else around them that annoy others, who completely ignore their children and let them do as they please, without any consideration for others.

But they aren't being banned because they might scream it is the screaming ones which are the issue. Therefore the issue is the parents who think everyone wants to listen to their angel scream who are the problem!