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to be feeling so upset and not know how to handle this

41 replies

DancingDolly · 22/02/2013 13:01

Ok, possibly not the biggest issue in the world, but have just got back from picking my DS up from pre-school, and this has really upset me.

This morning, while we were waiting for the nursery gate to be opened, myself and DS were stood in the street, along with all the other parents. One of DS' little friends was sitting in the car with his dad, as they often do. Dad had wound down the passenger side window so that DS could talk to his DS. I wasn't really paying much attention to what was being said, it's usually silly 3 yr old type nonsense, but I did hear my DS say, 'Your sister is your mum' in a joky, messing around kind of way.

This little boy and his 2 older siblings are always brought to school by their dad. I've never seen mum. This is the case with many of the children in DS' nursery class - sometimes you only ever see mum, sometimes only dad etc, and obviously this could be for a variety of reasons, that to be honest I don't really pay any attention to at all. However, on some level, this must have occurred to DS, and a few weeks ago he did mention this particular little boy, and said something along the lines of, 'So and so doesn't have a mum, only a dad.' Cue for me to explain that everyone had a mum and dad but all families are different blah blah, mum might be at work, not everyone lives with their mum and dad etc.

Anyway, when I came out of nursery with DS after picking him up this morning, this boy's dad was waiting to speak with me. He said that he'd heard what my son had said this morning, and he wasn't happy. He said that his children did have a mother, and that his older children in the primary had had a lot of bullying from children about this. He said that he'd been in and spoken to the nursery teachers, and that they had told him that if it had happened within the classroom they would have dealt with it, but as it had happened before school, outside the gates they could not get involved. They had also apparently told him that as DS was so young he would only be saying this type of thing if he'd heard his parents saying it!

The dad went on to say that the child's mother wanted to speak to me, and he wanted me to speak to her on his mobile phone there and then. He said he wanted to sort it out, as he didn't want the children's mother coming down to the school and shouting and screaming at me!

I was so taken aback. I tried to explain, that I did not believe DS meant anything by what had been said to his son. I explained that I would never tell my children that particular children within his class didn't have a mother. The father was adamant - where else would it come from. I said that in my opinion, 3yr olds say all sorts of shit, but he either wasn't understanding me, or didn't want to. The dad had quite a strong accent, so I don't know if it's relevant that English might not be his first language, and i wasn't able to explain myself very well?

The conversation ended with him thrusting his phone at me to speak to the boy's mother, and me (close to tears, stupidly), saying, no, I don't want to speak to her, you've really offended me!

Don't know why it's upset me so much - I think the injustice of it all, as in reality I try very hard not to judge others, and hope that I teach my children the same.

Should I try and speak to him again at school pick up this afternoon, when I'll be getting DD and he'll be fetching his other children?

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MrsKeithRichards · 22/02/2013 13:06

Ignore, they sound mental.

babiesinslingsgetcoveredinfood · 22/02/2013 13:08

I'm very confused.

Pancakeflipper · 22/02/2013 13:11

I would not speak to him at the moment. Smike and continue walking.
You did nothing wrong. It was 3yr old talking nonsense. It is obviously something he is very sensitive about. But that's their issue not yours.

I probably would speak to the nursery manager and inform them of the incident and that you felt threatened.

But from what you say - its their issue not yours. I would step away with dignity.

Pancakeflipper · 22/02/2013 13:11

Smile not smoke.

Pancakeflipper · 22/02/2013 13:12

Oh for tiny-keyboard-sake with your auto ffffffing correcting thing.

SMILE not SMIKE.

phoenixrose314 · 22/02/2013 13:13

Talk to the nursery teachers first, so they are aware of his behaviour towards you. It's not okay to be made to feel victimised like that. I would also talk to your DS - three year olds are capable of having a reasonable discussion about important things - and find our why he said it and what's going on.

Other than that, what else can you do? Just carry on as you are.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 22/02/2013 13:13

Dont speak to him later. If he approaches you just walk away. They are getting wound up over something a 3 year old said. Its just ridiculous.

You have nothing to apologise for or explain.

verytellytubby · 22/02/2013 13:14

They sound bonkers.

5Foot5 · 22/02/2013 13:14

I am confused too. You say that
He said that his children did have a mother, and that his older children in the primary had had a lot of bullying from children about this.

About what? Having a mother? Dad picking them up? I don't understand what the issue is.

Moominsarehippos · 22/02/2013 13:15

Sounds like some weird stuff is going on in that family!

N0tinmylife · 22/02/2013 13:15

Is it possible your DS could have heard this from other children and copied it without knowing what he was saying? If there has been a problem with bullying, I can understand why the Dad may have over reacted to what was said. I think I'd be inclined to let it go now, unless they say anything more. It sounds like its all in danger of getting blown out of proportion!

ScottyDoc · 22/02/2013 13:18

I can imagine how shaken you must feel OP. you've done nothing wrong and this guy is clearly a bit unhinged. If English isn't his first language and he is of a different nationality then this could also contribute to his attitude with regards to the kids behaviour. He has taken an offhand comment from a three year old very personally and that is very strange and he was completely out of order with confronting you. Don't worry about it, tell the nursery and one of the main keyworkers, and get them to have a word. His behaviour was threatening, domineering, out of control and socially unacceptable.

HecateWhoopass · 22/02/2013 13:21

I would go into the nursery and explain what happened and ask them if they did indeed tell him that such kind of things could only be coming from home, because if so, that is extremely offensive to you, they have no right to suggest such a thing.

MariusEarlobe · 22/02/2013 13:23

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thebody · 22/02/2013 13:25

Agree Hectate and also has anyone actually seen the mother.. Lately or ever?

Seriously!!!

MariusEarlobe · 22/02/2013 13:26

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Nosuchthingascant · 22/02/2013 13:29

Your sister is your mum?
My 3 year old comes out with weird things and random babble as they do but that sounds a bit weird to me- does he have older siblings or friends he could have heard saying that to him?

Nosuchthingascant · 22/02/2013 13:31

Although obviously the dad shouldn't have made you feel threatened like he did- hope you can sort it out

Dahlialover · 22/02/2013 13:33

"" "They had also apparently told him that as DS was so young he would only be saying this type of thing if he'd heard his parents saying it!"

Speak to them about this. ""

Agree with this. He could equally be repeating what he has heard at nursery. Hopefully the thing will blow over with the other parent, but I would talk to the nursery supervisor, even if it is just to let them know what they are saying is wrong.

maddening · 22/02/2013 13:38

I would speak to the teacher as it is they who inferred that this had come from you

MammaTJ · 22/02/2013 13:40

Most odd. Ignore!!

Groovee · 22/02/2013 13:41

They had also apparently told him that as DS was so young he would only be saying this type of thing if he'd heard his parents saying it!
You need to speak to nursery about this. If he approaches you at pick up time later, I would call the police as it's harassment and making you feel threatened. Some people do not realise how they come across and need to be told otherwise.

A dad in our nursery class had a go at mum outside nursery for her child walloping his daughter hard and her not telling him off. Next thing dad got hauled up by the nursery teacher as mum had been in tears about it to the nursery staff.

3 year olds say things without understanding meanings. Maybe the child had said something to your ds which prompted what he said. But if dad cannot let it go then the school need to know.

foxache · 22/02/2013 13:46

Yes, I agree the nursery shouldn't have implied this came from you.

He's only 3 years old ffs! Why is this taken so seriously by them and the dad?

We had a similar thing when ds was 3/4, he was accused of racism with a casual, observational comment about differences. I was called in, the teacher said 'it usually comes from the home, funny, you seem like nice people'. It still makes me so angry.

PessaryPam · 22/02/2013 13:50

She's under the patio, a la Brookside!

elliejjtiny · 22/02/2013 13:55

Speak to the nursery, about what they have apparantly said and about the dad threatening you.

Something doesn't seem right about the older DD's being bullied because their dad takes them to school. The children at my DC's school get picked up and dropped off by various people and it's rarely commented on unless the mum is heavily pregnant and someone else does the school run! One of DS1's friends is sometimes picked up by his Granny. She looks and is about 20 years younger than my mum and DS1 said that his friend had 2 mummies. Nobody was offended although the Granny was very flattered Grin. If any of the DS's make any comments like that I remind them that families come in different shapes and sizes.