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to be feeling so upset and not know how to handle this

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DancingDolly · 22/02/2013 13:01

Ok, possibly not the biggest issue in the world, but have just got back from picking my DS up from pre-school, and this has really upset me.

This morning, while we were waiting for the nursery gate to be opened, myself and DS were stood in the street, along with all the other parents. One of DS' little friends was sitting in the car with his dad, as they often do. Dad had wound down the passenger side window so that DS could talk to his DS. I wasn't really paying much attention to what was being said, it's usually silly 3 yr old type nonsense, but I did hear my DS say, 'Your sister is your mum' in a joky, messing around kind of way.

This little boy and his 2 older siblings are always brought to school by their dad. I've never seen mum. This is the case with many of the children in DS' nursery class - sometimes you only ever see mum, sometimes only dad etc, and obviously this could be for a variety of reasons, that to be honest I don't really pay any attention to at all. However, on some level, this must have occurred to DS, and a few weeks ago he did mention this particular little boy, and said something along the lines of, 'So and so doesn't have a mum, only a dad.' Cue for me to explain that everyone had a mum and dad but all families are different blah blah, mum might be at work, not everyone lives with their mum and dad etc.

Anyway, when I came out of nursery with DS after picking him up this morning, this boy's dad was waiting to speak with me. He said that he'd heard what my son had said this morning, and he wasn't happy. He said that his children did have a mother, and that his older children in the primary had had a lot of bullying from children about this. He said that he'd been in and spoken to the nursery teachers, and that they had told him that if it had happened within the classroom they would have dealt with it, but as it had happened before school, outside the gates they could not get involved. They had also apparently told him that as DS was so young he would only be saying this type of thing if he'd heard his parents saying it!

The dad went on to say that the child's mother wanted to speak to me, and he wanted me to speak to her on his mobile phone there and then. He said he wanted to sort it out, as he didn't want the children's mother coming down to the school and shouting and screaming at me!

I was so taken aback. I tried to explain, that I did not believe DS meant anything by what had been said to his son. I explained that I would never tell my children that particular children within his class didn't have a mother. The father was adamant - where else would it come from. I said that in my opinion, 3yr olds say all sorts of shit, but he either wasn't understanding me, or didn't want to. The dad had quite a strong accent, so I don't know if it's relevant that English might not be his first language, and i wasn't able to explain myself very well?

The conversation ended with him thrusting his phone at me to speak to the boy's mother, and me (close to tears, stupidly), saying, no, I don't want to speak to her, you've really offended me!

Don't know why it's upset me so much - I think the injustice of it all, as in reality I try very hard not to judge others, and hope that I teach my children the same.

Should I try and speak to him again at school pick up this afternoon, when I'll be getting DD and he'll be fetching his other children?

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DancingDolly · 22/02/2013 15:58

Thanks for your replies.

Headteacher rang to see if I was ok and if I wanted her to do anything. Apparently this dad has been quite intimidating before. I said that he hadn't been threatening or intimidating with me, just that I was upset by the fact he seemed to have made an issue out of nothing.also that nursery teachers had told him it must come from parents!

I asked her not to ring him as I think it would just blow up out of all proportion with him thinking I'd reported him etc.

Head said that dad had sole custody of children and that mum is not on the scene so she was unlikely to turn up and yell at me. Head also said dad was sensitive about issue of mum not being around and older kids being picked on about this.

Anyway I didn't see him at all on pick up so will just see how it goes on Monday.

I think it's just the personal injustice of it all! I want him to know, 'mate,, I'm the least judgemental person you could ever meet. I don't give 2 hoots about your family set up and I have always taught my children about difference in the world'

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Feminine · 22/02/2013 16:01

You encountered a totally peculiar man this morning.

Just try to remember this when you are playing it over in your mind.

Its sounds like a truly awful experience, I'm really sorry you had to deal with it.

Floggingmolly · 22/02/2013 16:06

He said his older children had been bullied because of this? How? Something has very obviously happened before, and this is the final straw for him.
When your son mentioned the situation before at home, where do you think he got it from? He seems fairly fixated on it too Hmm

BigAudioDynamite · 22/02/2013 16:14

I would think he is clearly having a really hard time of it. He's a SP to how many children? His older kids are being bullied. It is unusual for dad to have sole custody, and he obviously isn't that happy.

He over reacted with you. But I would just keep away, and try not to focus on your own injustice

Coconutty · 22/02/2013 16:19

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Hopeforever · 22/02/2013 16:25

coconutty I too would be asking DS where he heard this or why he said it.

I would then be explaining to him how hard it is for the children not to have mum on the scene.

The man was out of order, but it sounds like a final straw for a dad coping against the odds

adeucalione · 22/02/2013 16:25

I wouldn't be able to leave this, I would have to speak to him again, possibly with a rehearsed couple of sentences like those outlined in your last post OP.

If he doesn't want to hear your explanation, I wouldn't try again, some people are too thin-skinned and determined to take offence. Rest assured, if he has fallen out with you over this he is falling out with other people on a daily basis too - his problem, not yours.

BigAudioDynamite · 22/02/2013 16:29

Yep, and what coconutty and forever said. I think the guy is having a hard time

I would have told my dc, that they shouldn't say those things to other kids

DancingDolly · 22/02/2013 16:31

I completely agree BigAudio, I had been thinking about him on and off over the last term, assuming he may have sole custody (had seen him once in tesco over the weekend on his own with kids), and thinking what a hard gig that must be - not least because as you say, it tends to be more unusual than mum having sole custody, and people can be judgemental.

I actually think, Coconutty, that ds was just picking up on this difference to the norm in his world, in a 3yr old way. Although I will speak to him again over the weekend

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RedHelenB · 22/02/2013 16:33

It must be awful for his older kids to be bullied cos they haven't got a mum in their lives so if you are the non judgemental person you say you are I would let it go.

FakePlasticLobsters · 22/02/2013 16:38

If they have split up and he has sole custody of the children, why on earth would he phone her to tell her this and have her waiting on the phone to confront you at lunchtime?

He sounds nuts, what on earth would anyone gain from him doing that, or by you having a conversation with her about it on the phone?

I would put your side of this in writing to the school, so they have it on record if anything else comes of of it.

But I would also speak to all of your children and make sure they haven't been saying things like that about this family and make sure they know it's not on to tease others about their families.

CrazyOldCatLady · 22/02/2013 16:49

This is going to sound a bit harsh but didn't you think to ask your son what he meant when he said that? I would want to know where he had got that from and would have been listening to the conversation anyway if he was leaning in the car talking to another child.

I don't know what 3 year olds are like but I've a very articulate 2.8 year old and there wouldn't be any point in asking her what she meant by something, there's no way I'd get a straight answer. I don't think there'll be a huge change in that in the next 4 months!

OP, it's good that the head rang you, so they're aware of the situation and that you and your DS weren't the problem. Your best bet is to try not to engage with this man or his family again, I think.

propertyNIGHTmareBEFOREXMAS · 22/02/2013 16:50

They sound fucking mental. Yanbu.

pigletpower · 22/02/2013 16:59

Being the sole parent of your kids does not give you the right to be threatening and act like a cunt.I would call the police non emergency hotline and ask for advice,esp if he is known for this kind of behaviour.

Coconutty · 22/02/2013 17:19

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bruffin · 22/02/2013 17:36

He may not have split up with the mum, there may be issues why she can't leave the house or may have been hospitalized for awhile. It could be anything. But it does sound like a man who his at the end of his tether because of previous bullying.

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