To think that the "reusable nappy crew" are on par with the "breastfeeding only crew" when it comes to hysteria?

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They both come out with that old chestnut "it doesn't take extra time or energy".

The reusable nappy crew keep emphasising how much money they save. How the disposable nappy parents are "harming the environment" with their non-biodegradable nappies and baby poo.

They try to make disposable nappy parents feel bad IMO. The same way those breast feeding mad mothers do.

Sorry, that should have read "buy fancy nappies"

Hmm. I seem to be alone in finding nothing at all convenient about disposable nappies. Harder to put on. Less likely to stay on. More likely to leak. Pooey ones somehow seem to be more unpleasant to change (more poo seems to stick to the bum somehow). I suppose there's a more "out-of-sight out-of-mind" aspect to disposables but wanging them in the wash is not much more hassle than putting a nappy bags in the bin.

We use both though. And I think in energy terms there's not a lot to choose between them.

yy, in general, DD does not have nappy rash.
but sometimes, when we change her and she's had a poo, but we don't know hoe long it's been there, her bum is really red and sore.
when she's normally changed after a poo, it isn't.

so it's the poo being there for a while that causes the soreness.

Leeds university did a study(off the top of my head I think it was Leeds) saying there was no difference between reusables and disposables for nappy rash.

Polka. What creams do you need for reusables that you don't for disposables.
And you may not be aware but ecover detergent and other detergents like that (along with expensive ones with built in softener apart from bold as its clay based) are not recamended for use with any washable product that relies on absorbency to work,they leave traces on the nappies that prevent them working properly.

Never used any cream with disposables,had to use barrier cream with washables and then nappy rash cream.I tried using washables without and they became red raw.

Can't use Bold as it made all of us itch,only Ecover in this house for that reason and the fact that pumping the environment full of chemicals that effect the Eco system is wrong.

Environmentally washables are no better,worse I should think if tumbled .Having wet nappies on radiators increases asthma and all sorts of other risks the treating of which can't be good for the environment either.

can't use anything biological (never have for me so won't for DD. DH used to use Bold, i'm amazed he never had a reaction to it).

never used barrier cream.

we use non-bio, either fairy or sainsbug's own.

Then obviously reusables are not for you.

And I've never used radiators to dry Ime that tends to be a bad move as you don't heat your house as you wish all the heat goes to drying.

If reusables are just the same as disposables environmentally then why on earth are wwf local wildlife charities and the gov trying to encourage people to use them going so far as to plough money into it.

Nickel we use a tiny amount of what ever none bio without added softener happens to be available or an ecoegg. I use ecover for most of my laundry just not the nappies.

We do have one of those water saver modern machines tho

I try to dry nappies outside. I think that most people who use reusables do. The thing that swung it for me was the thought of all those sackfulls of dirty nappies that I'd be putting into landfill if I didn't use washable nappies. Also, our rubbish is only picked up once a fortnight and I don't like the thought of dirty nappies sitting about for two weeks before they are uplifted.

I can't dry mine outside - sometimes I tumble, but most of the time, I use a clothes horse inside - it's in front of a teeny radiator in the bathroom, and the nappies take 3 hours to dry there.

ours don't get stiff either.
we use about half of the amount of powder that we use for other clothes (although, having said that, i've started to reduce the amount of powder we use for everything now, and it makes no difference to the smell - i think it's mainly the agitation and hot water that does the cleaning)

we hang ours over the bannister. they take 2 days to dry fully, but we never put them on the radiator (i say "we" - DH does and i have tomove them )

Bit of a weird thread - suspect OP is a troll.

People love post-hoc justification - my DH loves cycling and thus made a virtue of the fact he commuted on his bike for many years ('I'm saving the planet' etc)...he did so knowing and sometimes ironically pointing this out to people who were trying that sort of argument on him.

Some people may go smugly on about reusuables saving the planet, money etc...the reality is people choose reusuables because they like them. They look good. They smell good. They are soft. I like the fact I don't fill my bin up with nappies - I have to manually dispose of our bins into a communal one so this is an issue for me. For me they are more convenient. Other users will have other features they prefer.

AP stylee crap is lauded as some kind of superior parenting - sure. Some bfers go on about their superior milk (I live in a place where ffers have the upper hand and always telling me how superior the bottle is....) - so I suppose some reusuable types will also go all superior too - just not my experience I'm afraid. I get the total opposite: people think I'm crazy and settling for a worse option.

probably right bfg - but it's an interesting discussion :)

I agree BFG, I only know one other person who uses reusable nappies and everyone else (DH included) think the idea of using washable nappies is crazy.

Surprised that I can't see any mention of the 'baby-wearing' crew - surely they're on a par with the BF's and cloth nappy-ers??

Ak, I dunno. Each to their own. I hate anyone preaching about anything - breast-feeding, cloth nappies, the Bible, the 5:2 diet etc. Don't preach, it's really annoying.

Exactly

Haven't read the thread.

Am thrilled that there are bf and reusable crews. Do they have fights on their estates? Is it like the Jets and the Sharks?

I hate that I generally have to tumble dry my nappies now, because they just won't dry at the moment. They're home-made ones, from fleece or terry towelling and interlock - I've heard the bamboo ones are the worst for drying - but the damp, humid environment I live in now means that they're a bugger to dry without the tumbler. In the UK though, I just used to hang them all on the airer in the bathroom, and leave the airing cupboard door open (had the space to do it) - they dried within 48h that way and were quite soft, despite hard water.

I've tried hanging them out in the bright sun to remove the yellow staining - doesn't work! But that's only the terry towelling ones, the fleece ones come clean. I do use napisan as a presoak for 24h prior to washing though.

Sorry, I think that's probably a bit too evangelising for this thread, isn't it!

ah, now, apparently with modern ones you're not supposed to use napisan because of the elastic. I'm assuming yours don't have elastic in them?

DH has never used anything else (obv apart from at the beginning when we used sposies - it was him that complained about the bin being full up and the stench)
he's never looked after any other children, so he doesn't know what it's like.

he used to hate the diddy diapers we started with because he couldn't get the hang of the nappy nippa, but I preferred those ones.
He loves the ones we use now, which are velcro.

and he does about half of the nappy changes, so he's got just as much experience as me.

There's no complaints on the washing front, either, because his washing increased when I moved in, and then increased again with a baby, so he's used to it all now!
(not his washing, but washing he had to take care of)

My nappies do not have elastic in, nickel, no. They have separate nappy wraps as well though - those have elastic in, but they don't get soaked in the same way unless they've been leaked on really badly.
Our nappies use a nippa, but the wraps are mostly velcro closing; I have some that are poppers but they're a PITA because they're never quite right in terms of fit. Velcro = much better. :)

I don't know what brigade to join. I bf but not for long, I use cloth but one disposable a day, overnight. Help!