To think that the "reusable nappy crew" are on par with the "breastfeeding only crew" when it comes to hysteria?

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They both come out with that old chestnut "it doesn't take extra time or energy".

The reusable nappy crew keep emphasising how much money they save. How the disposable nappy parents are "harming the environment" with their non-biodegradable nappies and baby poo.

They try to make disposable nappy parents feel bad IMO. The same way those breast feeding mad mothers do.

Nickel,what did you bath in?

BFing only can take a lot of time actually feeding, but it's a lot less hassle in every other way, especially when going out (and yes I've done both).

Reusable nappies just look like an insane amount of work, DSIL had them drying everywhere.

sock - the nappies are only there for a couple days, but if we need to bath (or shower), they get dumped in a pile for the duration.

sorry, need to address these points...

There is no point making a nappy biodegradable if it is going to end up in a landfill. They have found lettuce preserved in landfills and lettuce usually decomposes very quickly (my fridge drawer is proof of that!).

IMO reusables does reduce emissions, because of the manufacturing involved with disposables.

Leakage, yeah I've had cloth nappies leak. I've also had huggies and pampers leak. It is all about finding one that fits your baby right. I had one nanny charge who always leaked in huggies, yet my older son had splats up the back in pampers.

You don't need to bleach yellow nappies. Simply sit it on a windowsill (or dry outside if weather allows) and the yellow goes.

As for washing being work, more effort, more water etc, think about using that justification for any other reusable object we use and think of the alternative and think about how silly that sounds. Imagine a friend who only wears socks once and gets new ones, disposable paper clothes, only ever using plastic plates and cutlery and then throwing it away. If you knew someone who did that wouldn't you think it was a tad wasteful?

I'm really not trying to convince anyone but like someone upthread it feels wrong to have these things being said and no one answering them. I mainly did cloth for DS#2 out of curiosity but had no choice but to continue because he broke out really badly in disposables.

I didn't know there was a crew I could join. Sweeping judgement op!

Saycheese, I think the plastic burning and releasing fumes into the atmosphere would worry me about the nappy burning.

Well...you're dammed if you do or don't, I don't have the time or inclination for reusables so that's that.

I did try reusables with DD. Unfortunately, they gave her the most horrendous nappy rash. :(

We live in a clean air area, so we are pretty careful about what we put in our woodburner anyway, not too much paper to light it, no cardboard etc etc. I dread to think what the chemicals in disposables would do when burning firstly to my chimney liner, secondly to the environment and thirdly to the inside of my stove!

Sposies do reek, it's true. They gave DS a rash, but then EVERYTHING gave DS a nappy rash, wipes, sposies, resusables, fleece liners, sudacrem, everything. The only thing that worked was metanium. I guess his bum must have hardened up eventually, but it was a bloody (literally) nightmare.

Mummytomog, we had a bit of that too. Until I figured out that fleece and wool made everything worse and DS was allergic to almost every soap and detergent. We found one that worked and switched to cashmere (I kid you not ) liners that I made from a charity store skirt! He just screamed like his head was being cut off in disposables until I took them off (about a minute later) and they left a horrible rash.

YABU because you have lumped lots of people into 2 groups and called them all hysterical.
Some people, like yourself, seem to get upset when other people choose different parenting styles to them and then, God forbid! actually tell them about it. It's all a bit silly really. If your best mate told you she'd found a brilliant face moisturiser then told you all the reasons she thought it was so great for her, would you think she was insulting you for using your favoured moisturiser?

Don't be stupid, OP. You don't have to hate everyone who makes you feel guilty, or that you are not perfect.
I don't use cloth nappies. I just don't have the energy for the laundry. I know it would be better if I did, but I don't, and I admire those who do. I feel a bit guilty, but it is not their fault that I feel bad. I feel bad when I forget someone's birthday, I feel bad when I snap at my children, I feel bad when I slack off at work. It is not my automatic right to feel great all the time no matter what I do or don't do. same for you. so get over it.

Mum and dad had friends to stay for a week and I visited with DD, put an enormous disposable nappy down the loo and blocked it. They all had to go to the public toilets a mile away until a plumber could come to clear it. It was the first time I had used a disposable, in the olden days when they were new and had always used the towelling nappies before. Never disposed of a disposable in the loo again.

But why on earth did you think it would flush away?

IMO landfill is so shockingly appalling for the environment (methane is v powerful greenhouse gas, aside from anything else) that using washables is the right thing to do for her future, and for the future of your children, too, even if you can't be arsed finding out about them.

Might just be my DD, but her disposables STINK after she's had a wee in them. They leak as readily as washables (they jsut don't fit right, whereas birth-to-potty washables are more adjustable). Fleece inners are ace -dry quick, keep her dry. I have 2 bin liners made out of cheap voile curtains, so I bung the nappies in a pedal bin, then stick them in the wash in their voile bin-liner, so it isn't a nasty mucky business (no worse than taking nappies out to wheelie bin would be).

I agree that having children at all is apalling for environment. Also agree tht some washable nappies are RUBBISH.

it's not th ones that happily go about there business doing their own thing, it's the ones who want to tell you what a terrible human being you are and how you are dstroying the planet and ruining human genetics that get under my skin, especially when they have kids hanging off them with number 7 or 8 on the way!! how is using disposable nappies for two babies worse for the planet than adding six more "organic" humans?!!?

Double - I suggest playing these people at their own game if they are hypocrites.

Tell them to stop fucking breeding!

I have to admit though, i used disposable for my twin girls. Before they where born we spent a tonne of money on some bamboo fancy shaped things. the girl where born early and tiny and the nappies where huge!! so we got some premie dispoables. by the time they where big enough I tried the reusable ones for a couple of weeks but I couldn't get them to dry!! so eventually I ditch they whole idea and just stuck with disposables. i really hated the price and the stink of the disposables. If I had to do it again i would probably just try the old fashioned terry nappies and would probably have been better off. I don't feel guilty about my choices, I do miss the cash though

because shagmund they are as entitled to breed as I am to use disposable nappies

Where do you all live that you keep coming across people banging on about breastfeeding and reusable nappies?

I can categorically say that in 6 years of parenthood I have never had anyone talk about nappies of any stripe to me. I can't think of any topic more dull.

(and I say this as one of those dreadful bf/reusable people - and mooncup wearer, but jeez, I don't trouble myself to converse about these topics with acquaintances as a general rule because it is very , very , boring)

Of course they are.

And you're entitled to lecture them about why they should stop doing it.

Still not getting why breastfeeding without supplementing with formula is hysterical. Makes it sound like formula is the way you're supposed to do it, but a hardcore group of weirdos insist on the crazed notion of just wapping a tit out, or that formula is a given as an essential part of feeding a baby

I do not care what milk delivery system other parents use for their baby, I do not care what they collect their piss and shit in. It's boring. Everyone just does what works best for their family, who gives a rat's arse what anyone else does? Yes, a few smug bores like to drone on, but there are far more chip-on-shoulder merchants ( stares pointedly at the OP ) who wrongly perceive that anyone doing things differently is automatically passing judgement on them as inferior. Instead of whinging and making other people feel oddly guilty for just going about their day, why not address whatever issues make their self-esteem so worryingly fragile?

I use cloth. I'm a lazy fucker. I would never comment to anyone irl about their choice, it's none of my business. I do judge inwardly the people who don't give a shit that billions of
nappies end up in landfill each year. I mean how can you not care about that? Also I think people how do not flush solid poo are revolting.

I'm not bothered either way; not very interested in what other people do that's different to me, and I couldn't give a shiny shit what anyone else thought of choices I've made about what precisely my son is going to shit in. However, I will say that the only thing that turned me off using re-usables was that a friend with a baby six months older than mine did so and her lovely house - usually v clean etc - stank of piss. For months. Heave-making. I am sure that this was down to poor nappy management on her part, or an old nappy bucket or something but it really turned me off the idea.

Sandy, I was called a skank by some woman at one of my Ds's toddler groups for flushing his solid poos down the loo (she was moaning about having to bag his nappies and take them out to the bin all the time so the house didn't stink of shit, so I suggested she flushed the crap) Went on to say that was disgusting; when I politely pointed out that toddler poo isn't as disgusting a giant adult turd in the pan, she just walked off tutting.

People be crazy.