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The number overweight people at swimming today

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pingu2209 · 19/02/2013 18:40

I went swimming today with my 3 children. I am not exagerating to say that well over half the children and teenagers were overweight; some were seriously obese.

It really was noticable. Girls as well as boys. Anything from age 4 to 14.

Okay - at least they were exercising but I was really shocked.

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FlouncingMintyy · 19/02/2013 21:17

I wasn't offended by op and I am overweight. She's only stating facts.

Angelico · 19/02/2013 21:19

Why is the OP getting a kicking??? Talk about massive defensive over-reaction!

FFS I'm an overweight adult because I've been a greedy guts but I was a skinny urchin as a child. Having had a brush with gestational diabetes in pregnancy (and ironically having lost lots of weight because of it) has given me a kick up the arse to shift some more weight. I don't want to end up sticking pins in my fingers for the rest of my life. I don't want diabetes and all the associated health complaints (like my granny and 2 uncles had / have). I want to get my diet sorted now so I don't end up passing on my bad habits to DD.

Childhood obesity IS shocking. It should be shocking for us to see lots of overweight children just as we should be shocked so many of us are overweight and obese adults. It's not something that should be swept under the carpet. Something is seriously wrong with how lots of us are living. It should be okay to acknowledge that without lots of cats bum mouths and cries of victimhood!

HollaAtMeBaby · 19/02/2013 21:21

YANBU to notice. I have noticed that there are loads more fat children and teenagers around than there were when I were a young 'un. FWIW I have also noticed that there are also loads more Muslims, or at least more women in headscarves. Not a problem for me, just an observation.

But YABU to post it on here! No good can come of that... and it's hardly news that obesity has increased in recent years.

Lizzylou · 19/02/2013 21:26

I was a tubby 12 year old for about 6-9mths. I had always been taller and less dainty than my peers but at that point I was podgy. Then I grew 3 inches in height in as many months and was a 5ft 8" tall 13 year old, but a slim one.

The same thing happened to my Grandmother when she was the same age and she has maintained the same slim shape now well into her 90s.
So yes, children have always had growth spurts and puppy fat for a time.

I have definitely noticed more overweight children/teens in recent times. I remember when DS2 used to have a preschool swimming lesson at the same time as a local school's 5th year (so 10yrs old?) had theirs. I was really shocked. Though they could all have been storing fat for their (early) growth spurt I suppose.

Our diets and fitness are skewed. We are bombarded with "Low calorie", "Low fat" or "Low carb" or whatever and healthy, balanced eating has been lost along the way I think.

rodandtheemu · 19/02/2013 21:31

allyourI dont think its hard to get children to eat healthly at all?? You dont have to eat tofu and salad every day. It starts from an early age. The parents control the eating habits of there children no one else.

Healthy daily activities are the best way to change their all round attitude towards personal health and can lead to better eating.- they actually go hand in hand, like a poster said, they could swim solidly for an hour and not burn of most of the excess calories.

And yes, its children we are dealing with here, so as their parents we should be making sure they are eating healthy, even if it means re educating our selfs. No excuse.

notsofrownieface · 19/02/2013 21:32

OP I am sorry that you are getting such a hard time.

You are not being unreasonable to be shocked. It is a ticking time bomb, and people should be worried.

Obesity has doubled in the past 25 years, look here apparently as some would have you believe it is due to other health problems. Quite frankly this is bullshit, I am 3 1/2 stone overweight and how did I get here? By eating too much. People need to start taking responsibility for their own health.

We have more sedentary lifestyles and junk food is cheap. Look at the correlation between obesity since the 80's and the revolution of cheap crap food.

Obesity related illness cost the NHS (yeah i'm going there) last year was C£5 BILLION the cost of smoking and drinking combined to the NHS was less than that.

The anti smoking, and cutting down on booze message is working. Now we need a proper health initiative against obesity that will work.

This generation of children will die before their parents. Now that's food for thought.

Wants4 · 19/02/2013 21:44

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AllYoursBabooshka · 19/02/2013 21:45

rodandtheemu, you have misunderstood my point.

I was speaking of changing the attitude of already overweight children.

Many parents are acknowledging their mistakes and want better more healthy lifestyles for their children. Being given a food group chart and told to change a childs diet doesn't work.

CarpetBagger · 19/02/2013 21:46

Angelico,

I agree with op that obesity is a huge problem Grin, but I dont like the way she has gone to a place of excersie - a swimmingpool and moaned about fat people being there.

tazzle22 · 19/02/2013 21:47

Whilst I think that the title of the thread did read rather "inflamatory" I think that, taking the emotive stuff out, I do agree with pingu in principle... and with the causes !!!

and dont find it odd to discuss here.... after all this is mums net so maybe its relevant that mums would have a point of view on it and maybe have suggestions as to how we tackle the issue ????

I am a grandmother so do have a longer numbner of years to reflect back on than younger mothers and yes, I do think there are more overweight children now..... although schools are definately becoming more proactive in trying to do something about it.

I speak as someone who has been for a few years now obese for various reasons, some medical and some psychological, but who has always been very active and quite fit really and tried to eat healthily.

but that "healthy eating" might be part of the problem as I have been finding out from doing a lot of research as I am on the cusp of diabetes and testing to find what sends my blood sugar high.

  • As said earlier MOST of the "low fat" / "lighter" options we have been conditioned to buy are packed full of sugar and carbohydrates
  • we are encouraged to base all of our meals on carbohystrates by the health profession.... and as most of it does not taste good on its own it cries out for the addition of fats like butter, cheeses, sauces (negating the "low fat" yohurts etc we buy thinking we are being "good"
  • even healthy fruit contains a lot of sugar as do "healthy" fruit juices
  • we think cereals are healthy but manyh are packed full of sugars too .

All this is if we as carers and making great effort to encourage our children ( and DGC) to eat the "right things" ....

but then that can be hard because as a society we have changed .........

when I was a child ( 50 odd years ago) there was just no "low fat", healthy options we just ate "real" food and as long as we were sensible with portions we did just fine. Now many cheap and easy foods are processed stuff with all sorts of additives and there's proportionally a lot of calories in quite small portions. We also "expect" bigger portionss to fill our plates.

There was only one "takeaway" in our town which was the chip shop.... but it was a rare treat rather than a regular occurence.... same with the burger bar in the next town. Nowadays we are spoilt for choice with takeaways, restaurants and pubs featuring far more in our lives ......... its almost weekly ( if not daily) occurrence to go for a drink ( and a cake) in a cafe.

The tv also daily bombards us all with the social / pleasure aspect of eating, it can be hard to avoid all the programmes and adverts that encourage us, and kids, to partake in the pleasure that is eating.

Sweets also are far more readily available than when I was a child...... and children do see to have more expectation of them regularily or as a reward for something.

We did not have a tv and played outside in all except the worst weather ...climbing trees, playing hopscotch and skipping etc. Not saying kids never do that these days because I do see them do it, just that I do think it might be relevant, there is less freedom for children to do that these days.

I do think that there are definately some people that can eat anything they like , do little exercise and still be slim. I lived next door to parents like that some years ago who started to give their children proportionately the same amount of food they ate and the children both became podgy.

I personally could not eat even half what those adults ate, I exercised (hard circuits training for raft racing) as well as playing sports ... and easily put on weight if I did not judge it just right........ not flipping fair Envy

There are some medical conditions / medications that do cause weight gain so that sometimes makes it harder for some people so we cannot just look at someone ...... adult or child...... and make an assupmtion that (s)he is lazy / greedy / ignorant.

For sure its a complex issue that will NOT go away by browbeating anyone (people well aware of the medical side effects of smoking and binge drinking still do it Sad.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 21:52

What fabulous post tazzle.

countrykitten · 19/02/2013 21:53

And the missing word was....a!

pingu2209 · 19/02/2013 21:58

I did not moan about fat children being in the pool. I made a comment that I was shocked that there was such a high proportion of children who were overweight.

Tazzel22 thank you for your post.

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Angelico · 19/02/2013 22:00

Carpetbagger wocka wocka at 'huge problem' :o But I honestly didn't read the OP like 'Oh my God, look at all those fat kids at the pool!!!' Shock I just read it that there were lots of kids there and a substantial number were overweight.

I also agree with regional variations. I used to work in London commuter belt and there were lots of very overweight kids there. Lots of parents working long hours and kids had lots of pocket money to buy sweets and snacks with. Where I live and work now there are far fewer overweight children - but lots of OW adults - so presumably a bit of a timebomb.

Angelico · 19/02/2013 22:01

X-posted OP - I didn't find it an offensive post.

CarpetBagger · 19/02/2013 22:03

Yes but its the idea of you there looking at them all distastfully,

post that you walked past macdonalds with hords of them in there stuffing thier faces and lorry loads chcuking more in at them, but not when they are in a place of excersie!

Snazzynewyear · 19/02/2013 22:05

There have been a lot of 'how awful that all these people are overweight' threads lately. Seems like a bit of a trend.

HoHoHoNoYouDont · 19/02/2013 22:05

I'm really surprised at the responses to this post. On reading it I took it the OP was referring to how people were now generally more overweight than ever before. A fact forever being thrown in our faces, the reason we put so much energy now into appropriate food labelling. I didn't for one minute think she was being critical of individuals.

JemimaMuddledUp · 19/02/2013 22:05

YABU.

When I started swimming again (and took Adult Impover swimming lessons) I was a size 20. Six months later I'm still swimming but am a size 12/14. I was really self conscious when I started swimming as I hated wearing a swimsuit, but swimming (along with other exercise and diet) has made me a more "acceptable" size.

So please don't Shock at people plucking up the courage to get some exercise, in spite of (or perhaps because of) the fact that they are overweight.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 19/02/2013 22:05

Moosemama said: ...Perhaps you didn't mean your OP to sound like you judge every single overweight person you see, but it doesn't help people like me to think that others are looking them up and down and thinking about how fat I am....

That sums it up, for me. And I have been working hard to change that mindset, to try to convince myself that everyone I see isn't judging me for my size - and, being absolutely honest, this thread is a setback to that - because I hear and believe the negatives far more easily than I hear or believe the positives.

And I know that is my issue, but I have struggled with depression for so long, starting from when I was an overweight outsider, being bullied at school, and blighting my life ever since - and I know that this is plays a big part in why I am overweight. Life is a daily struggle just to do the basics - getting out of bed, showering, feeding the family, and when I was a member of a gym, I rarely managed to get myself out of the house to go, even though I felt better having gone, and we couldn't afford £50 a month for something I never used, so I dropped it.

And since I don't even like myself, I find it very hard to want to care for myself by looking after my health.

pingu2209 · 19/02/2013 22:08

Carpet Bagger why on earth would you assume I was looking at them distastfully. I noticed the fact that there were a lot that were overweight/obese. This is no different from noticing colours of swimsuit people were wearing.

I didn't swim with my eyes closed. Why do you assume I was looking distastefully. I was there with 3 children, I noticed and then moved on with ensuring my 5 year old was safe.

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HoHoHoNoYouDont · 19/02/2013 22:08

Plus the OP was commenting on children only. Children who may not get to make the choices on what they are fed but who rely on us adults to make informed choices.

Toughasoldboots · 19/02/2013 22:09

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pingu2209 · 19/02/2013 22:16

If I see someone with 1 leg, I do notice that they have 1 leg. I don't judgement negatively, or indeed positively, that they have 1 leg. I purely notice.

The same goes for people with anything that is outside 'normal'. I notice. I'm not judging, I am noticing.

I'm not blind. I see things.

If I went to a party with loads of very tall/short people, I would notice. I wouldn't judge. I would notice.

The difference is that being tall/short etc. doesn't affect society. I noticed that there were a lot more overweight/obese children in the pool than there were around 10 years ago.

If you are obese you will be noticed as being obese. You will not necessarily be judged, well I don't. However, you will be noticed. If you are trying to get healthier and one of the ways is to exercise more by swimming or going to the gym etc. then great for you. However, don't be nieve in thinking you won't be noticed by anyone who can see.

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ChaChaDigregorio · 19/02/2013 22:21

Not offensive to me. Pretty honest and non judgemental. Unless we can actually discuss the growing obesity epidemic, it's strain on the NHS and on people's physical and mental well being, without getting jumped on by the 'its ok to be obese' crew then attitudes aren't going to change. It will just become accepted that we are getting bigger with all the associated problems that come with it. It's a real taboo and shouldn't be. This post shows what happens when someone is brave enough to mention it.

We don't all need to be stick thin, and yes, metabolism and genetics play a part. But we need to be healthy and look after ourselves and many people aren't for whatever reason. That's sad for them and sad for our society as a whole, in particular kids who have it thrust upon them by adults who either don't know how to eat or can't or won't eat healthily.

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