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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this teacher is fucking loopy?

271 replies

OverReactionMuch · 16/02/2013 18:12

DS2 (just 5) apparently broke a branch off one of the trees in the school playground. He was swinging on it (normal boy behaviour?).

Teacher, who is Head of KS1 then paraded him around all the KS1 classes with the offending branch lecturing the other DC on how naughty my DC was and what a terrible thing he did.

She also phoned me (I did not know she had taken him round the classes) to inform me of my DS's 'crime'. I said I would talk to him. She also took the 'dead' branch into the afterschool club and showed all the DC there and so the staff could show me the offending article when I picked him up.

DS has said that he did not mean for the branch to come off.

I am actually quite furious that she has demonised my DS to the other DCs. DS has found it very hard to settle into school and I actually had a meeting with this woman before he started at school as I was concerned about how he would settle (undiagnosed SN is my mother's gut instinct) and she has totally ignored every thing I said.

AIBU to loudly voice my displeasure on Monday?

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Feenie · 17/02/2013 14:33

But, fwiw, I agree with all four of your points.

ComposHat · 17/02/2013 14:44

undiagnosed SN is my mother's gut instinct

my gut instinct based on what the op has written is that he is avying like a badly behaved little shite as he doesn't have appropriate boundries in place and ia mother excusing/approving of his behaviour at every turn.

When I worked at social services we had endless parents who had used Dr Google to diagnose ADHD/Aspergers in their children in their out of control teenagers, rather than examining their own parenting. When a proper diagnosis was sought they invariably came back as failing to meet the criteria.

FakePlasticLobsters · 17/02/2013 14:44

Thank you. I'm fairly sure I made all four of them in my first post, albeit not quite so boldly, but why say in one post what you can argue about in five? Wink

LindyHemming · 17/02/2013 14:45

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Feenie · 17/02/2013 14:45
Grin
Kirk1 · 17/02/2013 14:46

I'm confused. Feenie how do you know OP's DC's school rules, are you the teacher in question? From my reading,
*lots of children were swinging on a low branch.
*OP's DS was the unlucky child who was swinging when the branch gave up.
*DS was then taken around the school with the broken branch in tow. This seems to be the bit that's upsetting OP.
*Some of the responses here have been extreme "slap her, bitch, etc"
*Some others are saying there should be a punishment because the boy damaged school property. I haven't seen OP dispute that. Just that humiliation is the wrong way to go about it.

What have I missed?

DizzyHoneyBee · 17/02/2013 14:47

Stay calm, go and see her and see what she says.

Feenie · 17/02/2013 14:48

Because, Kirk1:

  1. Schools don't have secret rules, really they don't.
  2. Although I disapprove of taking children round classrooms to make an example of their behaviour, again it is unlikely that the teacher would have done so because the child had broken a rule no one know anything about. It is clearly a Big Deal in that school - hence the teacher's overreaction.
5madthings · 17/02/2013 14:50

composthe op says he should be told off, the school are aware there may be issues relating to son's and it had already been mentioned at his nursery.

It doesn't read as a child being allowed to behave as a little shit. Its a five yr old child, in reception so only at school for a few mths who is still learning the rules. He was playing.

Yes he should be told off which the op agreed with, what she doesn't agree with us the manner in which he was told off. And if the description is correct then I wouldn't agree with the punishment either and nor would many posters, including several who are teachers.

5madthings · 17/02/2013 14:52

They may not have secret rules, but I bet that a child who is five and in reception is aware of ALL the rules. He hasn't been told off for swinging on the tree before and may not have been aware it was a rule, it like many five yr olds he may have forgotten.

5madthings · 17/02/2013 15:00

My ds4 is almost five and in reception, we just got his report, there is a bit for school rules/routines and behavior with boxes food always does these things, usually does them, etc. My ds4 had the always follows class rules and routines box ticked with a comment saying 'occasionally needs reminding about appropriate play with friends' when I asked the teacher she said he is doing really well but can occasionally be a bit boisterous in the playground like many if the children. Always complied when reminded.

I can see him swinging on agree at school whilst playing, once told not to he would stop and hopefully remember not to do it again but like many four/five yr olds he may need another reminder.

This is a reception child who us learning the rules and routines at school, he isn't being a little shit he is learning.

Kirk1 · 17/02/2013 15:02

Feenie, schools might not have "secret" rules, but not all schools sit every class of five year olds down and spell them out. Some schools have rules that "go without saying" when some children need them saying. Obviously causing damage to anything on school property is against the rules, but "not swinging on a branch that a dozen of your classmates are swinging on" is not a rule that would be obvious to a ten year old, let alone a five year old.

PessaryPam · 17/02/2013 16:23

countrykitten PessaryPam - what a very silly remark to make.

So you don't agree? How very adult of you. I would be interested to see how many responders are either teachers or affiliated in some way to teaching.

PessaryPam · 17/02/2013 16:29

The kid is 5 FFS how can so many of you actually be teachers, quite honestly with your zealotry you scare me. Thank God my kids are grown up and not having to deal with you types.

Maryz · 17/02/2013 16:34

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amillionyears · 17/02/2013 16:37

Me too, Maryz

countrykitten · 17/02/2013 16:40

I am a teacher as it happens but in senior school. There is nothing to be gained in attacking teachers pp, as I suspect that the op will find out tomorrow when she finds out what actually happened bears little resemblance to what she has decided happened.

5madthings · 17/02/2013 16:40

I agree if the teacher did this I would be complaining,its not OK to humiliate a child like this.

countrykitten · 17/02/2013 16:41

Maryz and others - you don't actually know that this happened and neither does the OP!

Maryz · 17/02/2013 16:41

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Maryz · 17/02/2013 16:43

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5madthings · 17/02/2013 16:45

No and no-one knows it didn't happen but the op has elder children and a friend in another class who confirmed he was brought into their classes with the branch.

The op needs to speak to the school to clarify the situation, if it happened she should complain. I would be very cross.

amillionyears · 17/02/2013 16:50

countrykitten, so if you personally start a thread about something,basically we shouldnt believe you Hmm

BoneyBackJefferson · 17/02/2013 16:53

Maryz

Is it ever acceptable for a teacher to humiliate a 5 year old by parading him around every class (presumably to be laughed at by older children) and also to carry on that humiliation into the after-school club?

I think that the term alledgidly really needs to be put in there somewhere

I would have thought that would be extreme punishment for a 15 year old who deliberately broke a door, much less a 5 year old who broke a branch by mistake.

A 15 yr old who delibrately broke a door would be excluded (at my school) and we don't know if this was an accident or what the OP's child did with the branch afterwards.

I think it's disgusting behaviour on behalf of the teacher.

But we don't actually know what the teacher did, and TBH no teacher would have time to take a child around the entire school.

amillionyears · 17/02/2013 16:55

Boney, so you dont believe the op either?

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